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Posted on Mar 1, 2022, 4:50 am
#1

Hey Everyone,

Been browsing this forum for the last 4 years, and as I draw closer to finally get LL, I thought it's time I start. interacting with the community. I want to give. a brief introduction and ask a few questions that will help me make. the right decisions.

Introduction
Been considering LL for the past few years, and have always planned to do it as soon as graduating. I am very fortunate to have my parent's support, and have the option to go with any doctor I choose (no budget constraint). Unfortunately with the STRYDE recall, that has left me in a strange spot, since I am only considering weight-bearing nails. I would like to get 6-7 cm on femurs internally. Currently I am 171 cm, early 20's, and have been stretching and working out intensely every day for the past 4 months. I plan to get into twice a day stretching, an hour each session, around 2 months prior to operation day. The goal is to get as close to full splits as I can, and stretching hip flexors, while also building strength in the core and glutes.

 Originally I planned to go with Paley STRYDE, but given that is no longer an option, I am considering Dr. Betz. I have contacted Paley, Mahboubian, and Debiparshad, and they all say to expect STRYDE back in 2023. I can technically wait that long, but if Betz can do the job, I might as well go for it (a few questions further down about this). I graduate in April, and would like to start the process in either June or August (questions below).

Questions

  • For those that did LL with Betz, do you recommend him? I have read the diaries of SirStretchAlot, chasing_higher_dream, and RB, and while there are some complications, it does not seem unrecoverable. I am having a hard time deciding since I only know of the process through these diaries. Would I be able to talk to any current patients (If you are a patient PLEASE DM me)?
  • Is stryde FAR superior to Betzbone? In all technicality I would need to wait around another year most likely, and I am only considering weight-bearing nails, so if it is just a matter of clicking pain and some risk of non-union I can handle that. The stryde diaries are a joy to read though, and seeing results like Movie and StrydeNailChallenge is definitely swaying my opinion.
  • How would you tell your girlfriend/partner, if you would even do so? I am fairly confident she would be supportive, but I don't want to be an absolute cripple for like 5 months and have her deal with that. Looking at the walking abilities of Betzbone and stryde patients, I don't think it would be horrible, especially since a lot of these patients
    go to work occasionally.
  • How difficult is it to start working one month post-op? I run a startup, and we work remotely, so I am able to work my own hours and at home. We were planning to set up an office in the summer, but I can have that set up and start attending it near the end of my lengthening period.


Summary
I look forward to starting this journey as soon as possible, but I want to have the best odds of success and minimize downtime. I am indeed fortunate to have the support of my parents, and they are willing to travel with me should I stay abroad while lengthening. I very much appreciate the incite you guys can offer, and I will give occasional updates as they become relevant.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2022, 5:57 am
#2

Indeed, I have been 171cm since 16.

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Posted on Mar 1, 2022, 6:05 am
#3

If somebody can also weigh in on Dr. Guichet, I would be happy to hear, would be willing to look into him as well because his videos just give me less salesman vibes than both Betz and Paley.

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Posted on Mar 22, 2022, 1:29 am
#4

Update:

Have my consultation with Betz soon, so if anyone has questions let me know and I can ask. My operation date is scheduled for June, and honestly I'm feeling massive relief cause I have been looking forward to this for a very long time. Its like just the knowledge that this is happening was enough to soften the dysmorphia. I do feel some fear, as its no longer a theory, but a reality that I am gonna have a pretty slow summer. I am continuing to do stretches daily, and have seen notable improvements in hamstring flexibility. Also, I am working out my glutes and legs 2-3 times a week with weights. I have ridiculous muscle growth speed so over the past month there has been significant hypertrophy. My hope is to get them into a far above average state before operation date.

My interactions with Betz's team so far have been great, they said that ITB release is now available to anyone who requests it, and I will definitely take this offer.

I wonder if any of the veterans have felt a sense of haste in the months leading up to operation. I felt a glimpse of what life was like before dysmorphia today - a calming presence and a childlike curiosity for the present task. There are some commendable people on this forum, who despite facing what I would categorize as a debilitating mental illness, have achieved FANTASTIC things. I can only imagine the momentum of life and the difference in productivity once September rolls around and I am done lengthening.

Or maybe I'm romanticizing this crazy procedure. I don't know. I've always seen it as the final obstacle before I step into the adult world. In any case, I am excited to see what happens.

If you guys can answer some of my above questions, that would be very much appreciated.

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Posted on Mar 23, 2022, 2:42 am
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Thanks for the response bro. Did you do it in the Freiburg or Saarbrucken clinic? I'm scheduled for Saarbrucken but Freiburg is where I think he usually is, they gave me the option to do Freiburg but it would be a week later.

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Posted on Mar 23, 2022, 3:09 am
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Quote from: Sorcerer on March 23, 2022, 03:06:31 AMI don't recommend Betz to u in my perspective.
First, he is plugging away with crazy claims like lengthening your femurs by 10-11cm in one go and tibias by 8-10cm also in one go not only on his profile but also via emails to questions about how much patients can lengthen at most if you want to ask.
Secondly, he was telling lie that he had never caused complications whilr MasterHY had learned the lesson, not to mention back in 2017 he was sued by a female patient.
Finally, I am also waitng for P's return. When I saw P would never come back probably from Guichet's words I sat on the floor paralyzed with expressionless eyes and trembling lips and finally I cried out in the cafe where I was having my lunch.

Sorcerer bro with all due respect, I'm gonna ask you to not comment on my journal, your posts are consistently negative and I don't want that here.

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Posted on Apr 11, 2022, 10:44 pm
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Did my consult recently. A few notes:

- ITB release is being performed in all initial surgeries since January
- Betz is an extremely energetic doctor
- Dr. Becker is now Betz's right-hand man, they perform all surgeries together
- Both doctors came across as highly competent. They were transparent about the whole process, and mentioned not only nails bending in the past, but also that ITB release should be offered given input from multiple patients. They at no point claimed clicking is completely painless for all patients. Overall, I did not get the sense that they were trying to sell me on the procedure at all
- The stories are true, the consultation was a 4+ hour marathon session

With that being said, my operation date is soon, and I am beginning to get VERY nervous. I've been stretching like a maniac and working the glutes every other day. Since the consultation, there have been moments of doubt: am I really about to break both of my healthy legs? Going to get back to stretching!


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