being a 5'4 male has ruined my life. no friends and no girlfriend because of exactly this problem
statistically about %3 of girls would accept a 5'4 man. and them girls are probably landwhales. i cant fk fat girls man, I especially since I take such care of my body. all my dad fks is fat low value women (including my mom)
old friends literally said it was my height to me on why they ditched me. they were a bunch of lads all 6ft+, some even 6'4. so i looked silly next to them and they told me girls also told them this so I can understand the drift.
ive met like 7-8 girls in the last year (without telling them my height). All of them when they first met me, mentioned my lack of height as their first words or within the first minute of conversation. they mention it in a very negative way. before I meet them, on facetime they're all happy and into me and seem like they like me(i have decent personality and ok face so thats probably why) but when they see my height they just dont want anything to do with me and some made excuses to go home straight away. but every single other one just didnt reply once they get home.
so ive pretty much given up at this point. also people who are short are statistically a lot less likely to be making a lot of money. so basically every odd is against me. i have no relationship with anyone and no family that love me or that I can speak to so I've ended up living in a homeless shelter in the UK. every other person in the shared house smokes crack and injects heroin. its like my parents just birthed me into the existence then ditched me and left me in this short body that I didnt ask for.
I am making an effort to improve my life- i just got a digital marketing job + i go to mma + gym + I try to take care of my looks, regular haircuts, sunbeds etc. but my height is really holding me back.
If I ever did get enough money to get leg lengthening surgery, would I still be able to train legs in the gym and would I still be able to do MMA and kickboxing? They're literally the only things I've got in life and I wouldnt like to lose them in return for adding 3 inches of height. but I wouldnt mind a year off + intense physiothrapy.
Also what can I do to cope while I try to make enough money to get the surgery? I hate my life;being not respected at all, having no social life, and no girlfriend. my existence is dreadful (im not even depressed, its just the truth) but im hopeful for the future and i think this surgery could change my life
being 5'4 has ruined my life. can i still do sports if I get LL?
Reading other diary's I'd imagine it will likely be more than just 1 year of recovery until you get back to MMA and when you finally can start it will he a long time til you can match your pre surgery performance. Could be several years in the end.
Eventually though you should be able to return to those activities. Sweden got the surgery and after a long while he got back to competing in some form of martial arts, but it seemed he regretted the surgery early on due to slow progress.
Keep in mind I don't speak from experience. You can do your research on user journals here to see if the process is right for you.
As for how you can cope, you should try to get some friends. Having no social life can make people of any height depressed. Height shouldn't be a very limiting factor there, it sounds like your previous friends were just cruel.
thanks for the reply, its nice to see someone did get back into competiting in martial arts afterwards. i wouldnt mind doing 1-3 years of building up to pre surgery performance. as long as i get to a decent height and can defend myself, not massively bothered about competing.
yeah i suppose no friends could make any one depressed. i havent really met anyone in gym or mma that i get along with massively.
I dont know how else I could make friends tbh. i feel like other men wouldnt really want to be friends with me cos its kinda low status to be friends with a 5'4 guy. i feel like i dont fit in anywhere. cos even nerds are all tall
I was your height before surgery and while I acknowledge it’s more difficult to date (making friends was never an issue), it is not impossible at all. I’ve had 3 long term gfs and multiple casual flings including my current who supported me through LL and they are certainly not land whales lol in fact my current gf is always told how beautiful she is by random people. I do agree that 5’4 is a difficult height for anyone though and at that height you have to work 10 times harder than the average man to secure a nice looking gf, job promotion etc but it can be done.
What I would recommend is to improve your life as much as possible dating, social and career wise before surgery so that when you do it, it will add to your already great life rather than relying on LL to be the sole factor that improves your life. Being 5’7 is a huge difference to 5’4 I can definitely say that but it will be much more beneficial to do this when everything else in your life is going fairly well.
I am also a blue belt in BJJ and it will probably take me at least 1-1.5 years post surgery to be able to even think of starting to train again.
Feel free to ask any questions and hope this helps.
Quote from: RB on August 31, 2021, 11:41:02 PMI was your height before surgery and while I acknowledge it’s more difficult to date (making friends was never an issue), it is not impossible at all. I’ve had 3 long term gfs and multiple casual flings including my current who supported me through LL and they are certainly not land whales lol in fact my current gf is always told how beautiful she is by random people. I do agree that 5’4 is a difficult height for anyone though and at that height you have to work 10 times harder than the average man to secure a nice looking gf, job promotion etc but it can be done.
What I would recommend is to improve your life as much as possible dating, social and career wise before surgery so that when you do it, it will add to your already great life rather than relying on LL to be the sole factor that improves your life. Being 5’7 is a huge difference to 5’4 I can definitely say that but it will be much more beneficial to do this when everything else in your life is going fairly well.
I am also a blue belt in BJJ and it will probably take me at least 1-1.5 years post surgery to be able to even think of starting to train again.
Feel free to ask any questions and hope this helps.
Just wondering though. Securing a nice looking gf, I understood. Job promotion with height? Do you mean the taller you are, the easier you get job promotion? Why? Thanks.
Quote from: ilovescience on September 01, 2021, 01:56:39 AMJust wondering though. Securing a nice looking gf, I understood. Job promotion with height? Do you mean the taller you are, the easier you get job promotion? Why? Thanks.
I just mean in general, the taller you are the more authority you naturally display (not all tall guys though) so for things like management positions, there is a subconscious bias to promote taller people into management positions whereas a short guy with equal skill will have to work harder, prove themselves more to gain the same position as people relate leadership ability with stature on a biological, subconscious level. This is just a general rule though as I have seen my fair share of short men in management positions, including myself. On a high level though, there is a statistic that over 60% of Fortune 500 CEO's are over 6ft. So there is certainly some height bias there. Other factors for this include increased confidence, perception of ability etc for those who are over 6ft so that plays a factor too.
As a short man you can achieve great things. Although you will generally have to put in a much higher level of effort to achieve the same thing as an equally capable tall man.
Honestly depends on which LL method. But u rgonna have to sacrifice ur mma. Especially kickboxing. Cuz u can snap ur tibia.
Quote from: Digital Hitler on August 31, 2021, 08:03:07 PMbeing a 5'4 male has ruined my life. no friends and no girlfriend because of exactly this problem
statistically about %3 of girls would accept a 5'4 man. and them girls are probably landwhales. i cant fk fat girls man, I especially since I take such care of my body. all my dad fks is fat low value women (including my mom)
old friends literally said it was my height to me on why they ditched me. they were a bunch of lads all 6ft+, some even 6'4. so i looked silly next to them and they told me girls also told them this so I can understand the drift.
ive met like 7-8 girls in the last year (without telling them my height). All of them when they first met me, mentioned my lack of height as their first words or within the first minute of conversation. they mention it in a very negative way. before I meet them, on facetime they're all happy and into me and seem like they like me(i have decent personality and ok face so thats probably why) but when they see my height they just dont want anything to do with me and some made excuses to go home straight away. but every single other one just didnt reply once they get home.
so ive pretty much given up at this point. also people who are short are statistically a lot less likely to be making a lot of money. so basically every odd is against me. i have no relationship with anyone and no family that love me or that I can speak to so I've ended up living in a homeless shelter in the UK. every other person in the shared house smokes crack and injects heroin. its like my parents just birthed me into the existence then ditched me and left me in this short body that I didnt ask for.
I am making an effort to improve my life- i just got a digital marketing job + i go to mma + gym + I try to take care of my looks, regular haircuts, sunbeds etc. but my height is really holding me back.
If I ever did get enough money to get leg lengthening surgery, would I still be able to train legs in the gym and would I still be able to do MMA and kickboxing? They're literally the only things I've got in life and I wouldnt like to lose them in return for adding 3 inches of height. but I wouldnt mind a year off + intense physiothrapy.
Also what can I do to cope while I try to make enough money to get the surgery? I hate my life;being not respected at all, having no social life, and no girlfriend. my existence is dreadful (im not even depressed, its just the truth) but im hopeful for the future and i think this surgery could change my life
I really hope you're a troll because if this is a serious post its really pathetic you think like this. Calling fat women whales, coming up with bull statistics of 3 percent woman like 5'4 guys. Your height is the reason why no one likes you? Maybe you're an thats more likely why no one likes you sis.
Quote from: Digital Hitler on August 31, 2021, 08:03:07 PMbeing a 5'4 male has ruined my life. no friends and no girlfriend because of exactly this problem
statistically about %3 of girls would accept a 5'4 man. and them girls are probably landwhales. i cant fk fat girls man, I especially since I take such care of my body. all my dad fks is fat low value women (including my mom)
old friends literally said it was my height to me on why they ditched me. they were a bunch of lads all 6ft+, some even 6'4. so i looked silly next to them and they told me girls also told them this so I can understand the drift.
ive met like 7-8 girls in the last year (without telling them my height). All of them when they first met me, mentioned my lack of height as their first words or within the first minute of conversation. they mention it in a very negative way. before I meet them, on facetime they're all happy and into me and seem like they like me(i have decent personality and ok face so thats probably why) but when they see my height they just dont want anything to do with me and some made excuses to go home straight away. but every single other one just didnt reply once they get home.
so ive pretty much given up at this point. also people who are short are statistically a lot less likely to be making a lot of money. so basically every odd is against me. i have no relationship with anyone and no family that love me or that I can speak to so I've ended up living in a homeless shelter in the UK. every other person in the shared house smokes crack and injects heroin. its like my parents just birthed me into the existence then ditched me and left me in this short body that I didnt ask for.
I am making an effort to improve my life- i just got a digital marketing job + i go to mma + gym + I try to take care of my looks, regular haircuts, sunbeds etc. but my height is really holding me back.
If I ever did get enough money to get leg lengthening surgery, would I still be able to train legs in the gym and would I still be able to do MMA and kickboxing? They're literally the only things I've got in life and I wouldnt like to lose them in return for adding 3 inches of height. but I wouldnt mind a year off + intense physiothrapy.
Also what can I do to cope while I try to make enough money to get the surgery? I hate my life;being not respected at all, having no social life, and no girlfriend. my existence is dreadful (im not even depressed, its just the truth) but im hopeful for the future and i think this surgery could change my life
1. Betz patients start going to the gym on day 2 after the surgery. Is it fun? Absolutely f* not. But it's a start and from there you slowly work your way up in terms of weights etc.
2. You can get back to MMA at some point, but after going through this surgery your opinion on putting your body at risk of injury will change, trust me. You will appreciate your body much more. MMA seems like an important thing right now, but it likely won't be when push comes to shove.
3. I hope I won't offend you, but your problems quite clearly aren't just height related. You said yourself you live in a homeless shelter, your parents shunned you and those things likely resulted in you developing a negative worldview and a rather rude demeanour that will put many people off. The reason I am so sure about this is because I know people your height who have friends, good jobs and girlfriends. Whilst they have to work hard, they're all positive and driven, which is very important too. While you wait for the surgery, my advice to you is - start with the "land-whales". At the very least you will gain some confidence which is invaluable, and who knows maybe you will realise it is not so bad after all.
Quotei have decent personality and ok face so thats probably why
You gotta be making jokes LMAO cuz I saw you had insulted your mom as a fat low value woman and your post was riddled with horrendous negative emotions and extremism theories,such as you got several friends who were on purpose spitting out aggressive words concerning your height and tolding you girls hate short men.
I dunno how come you got homeless.Was that because your parents had cast u away from your original home or was just that you hated your parents so you left home?I don't mean to figure out the exact reason but all you gotta know is after surgeries,you have to be mentally ready for enervated athleticism and scars on your legs.
I'm wondering how you will collect enough money for LL since you're just living in a shared house surrounded by crackheads.
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