Bilateral Femur Lengthening Dairy: May 2021 with Dr Betz and Betzbone

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Sounds like it was a success, great news! I'll be doing my ITB release tomorrow now so hopefully I have a similar result.

Did the ITB release help you improve your duck ass since they are interrelated? Mine has improved during consolidation but is still present when I put my legs all the way together so I'm hoping the release can alleviate that.

And as for the neuro pain, I was prescribed Pregabalin and it worked great, although it took about 1 week of taking it to have a noticeable effect.

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Quote from: RB on July 06, 2021, 12:05:48 AMSounds like it was a success, great news! I'll be doing my ITB release tomorrow now so hopefully I have a similar result.

Did the ITB release help you improve your duck ass since they are interrelated? Mine has improved during consolidation but is still present when I put my legs all the way together so I'm hoping the release can alleviate that.

And as for the neuro pain, I was prescribed Pregabalin and it worked great, although it took about 1 week of taking it to have a noticeable effect.

They're interrelated because they're stretching the same tendons. Duckass is just people shortening their hip flexors to narrow their legs. If you stand upright, you will notice your legs widen again.

The reason for this is your hip flexors. You will feel a severe stretch when you try to stand still and push your hips forward. This happens because the wide legs were hiding our inflexible hip flexors.

My release surgeon told me that it would not be a complete close post-op either. Hamstrings are the most responsive to stretching. Hip flexors are harder, so it will take a few weeks for us to stretch them back.

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Congrats on the successful IT band release surgery. I wish you luck for the upcoming last mile of lengthening.

- Could you please tell me how many approx cms do you still have wide legs after this surgery? Can you bring your legs together touching each other (even by force)?
- Also, at what rate are you lengthening currently?
- For how many hours in a day do you stretch?

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Quote from: chasing_higher_dream on July 09, 2021, 02:24:17 PMCongrats on the successful IT band release surgery. I wish you luck for the upcoming last mile of lengthening.

- Could you please tell me how many approx cms do you still have wide legs after this surgery? Can you bring your legs together touching each other (even by force)?
- Also, at what rate are you lengthening currently?
- For how many hours in a day do you stretch?

All good questions

1) Pre-op 60cm, now 40cm. Note that this is with an additional cm of lengthing post-op. The actual narrowing is probably close to 50%.

2) I can most definitely force my legs together to touch. However, it will be with bent knees and hips back (typical duck ass). It's probably easier to walk with wide legs.

3) Currently lengthening between 10-15 clicks per day. (0.5-0.78mm)

4) I stretch 2 hours a day.

55.70/52.84mm

Having done the ITB release has definitely eased my wide legs significantly. It has however also revealed the amount of work I have to do on my hamstring and hip flexors. Increased stretching has definitely elevated my pain levels throughout the day.

I don't expect my wide legs to narrow significantly from my current 40cm state, as I am still lengthening, hence a moving goal post. However, I am definitely finding more effective ways to target-stretch my hip abductors, the main bottleneck to my wide-legs.

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58.04/55.18mm

Hi everyone, an update about the ITB release.

The ITB release occurs near the knee to prevent muscle herniation (muscles leaking out of the ITB fasciae), which alleviates a lot of ITB pressure near the knee. However, I still have significant abduction due to the ITB being tight near my upper thigh. This is because the ITB has muscles and tissues attached to it throughout your thigh, and a release near the knee, only partially releases the ITB near the upper thigh. I would advise all those who are about to do an ITB release, know that this is not an "on/off" switch to wide legs. It allows a previously unstrechable band to now be stretchable. Significant effort still has to be invested. Releasing it early will benefit you much more, as I now have to make up for past work.

As for the legs themselves, pain and discomfort especially during sleep has increased as I approach 6cm. It cannot be alleviated by switching sleeping positions. The only solution I found was to click less, so I am now consistently clicking 10 times per day (0.5mm).

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Quote from: SirStretchAlot on July 13, 2021, 09:35:13 AM58.04/55.18mm

Hi everyone, an update about the ITB release.

The ITB release occurs near the knee to prevent muscle herniation (muscles leaking out of the ITB fasciae), which alleviates a lot of ITB pressure near the knee. However, I still have significant abduction due to the ITB being tight near my upper thigh. This is because the ITB has muscles and tissues attached to it throughout your thigh, and a release near the knee, only partially releases the ITB near the upper thigh. I would advise all those who are about to do an ITB release, know that this is not an "on/off" switch to wide legs. It allows a previously unstrechable band to now be stretchable. Significant effort still has to be invested. Releasing it early will benefit you much more, as I now have to make up for past work.

As for the legs themselves, pain and discomfort especially during sleep has increased as I approach 6cm. It cannot be alleviated by switching sleeping positions. The only solution I found was to click less, so I am now consistently clicking 10 times per day (0.5mm).

Interesting point about the ITB release. I've had a slightly different experience in that since my release my legs have basically come all the way in instantly but I am guessing this is partly due to the fact that I did the release 4 weeks into consolidation (and as such am no longer clicking and making the ITB tighter) and spent a lot of time prior to the release stretching the hamstrings. My legs are all the way in with the crutches, however are still slightly wide when walking unassisted due to weak glutes I'm guessing. But the difference is night and day compared to before.

I think you will have similar improvement during consolidation when the surrounding muscles are no longer being lengthened.

Not long to go with clicking either mate, hope the rest of the journey is smooth for you.

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Quote from: RB on July 13, 2021, 10:31:47 AMInteresting point about the ITB release. I've had a slightly different experience in that since my release my legs have basically come all the way in instantly but I am guessing this is partly due to the fact that I did the release 4 weeks into consolidation (and as such am no longer clicking and making the ITB tighter) and spent a lot of time prior to the release stretching the hamstrings. My legs are all the way in with the crutches, however are still slightly wide when walking unassisted due to weak glutes I'm guessing. But the difference is night and day compared to before.

I think you will have similar improvement during consolidation when the surrounding muscles are no longer being lengthened.

Not long to go with clicking either mate, hope the rest of the journey is smooth for you.

That is great to hear. I think your pre-op work definitely helped.

Did you happen to do your release near the knee as well?

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Quote from: SirStretchAlot on July 14, 2021, 08:57:31 AMThat is great to hear. I think your pre-op work definitely helped.

Did you happen to do your release near the knee as well?

Yeah it was released near the knee, slightly higher up from the side of the kneecap. The surgeon said it can also be released near the hip but that it wouldn’t provide as much relief doing it that way.

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Quote from: RB on July 14, 2021, 12:47:58 PMYeah it was released near the knee, slightly higher up from the side of the kneecap. The surgeon said it can also be released near the hip but that it wouldn’t provide as much relief doing it that way.

Yeah, my PT just said that the band near knee is the thickest, and that it's thinner near the upper thigh. I guess nothing really relieves us from the need to stretch prolifically.

60.64/57.78mm
1) Increased stretching has allowed me to keep up with lengthening. Wide legs are around 48cm. The ITB release definitely provided relief and made my band more stretchable, but it unfortunately has not come in completely for me as it had for RB.

2) On the bright side, clicking has suddenly become easier around 56mm. I've been able to click both legs within 10min, without painkillers. This has given me back so much time throughout the day.

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73.64/70.78mm

Hey guys, haven't updated my diary in a while since most things have stayed the same. A few things to note.

1) Clicking pain is minute, but still there.

2) General leg discomfort has increased, and painkillers do not really solve the problem. I need 10 hours of rolling-in-the-bed sleep to get what I got before in 8 hours.

3) Widelegs/duckass has stayed the same.

I have a feeling the last 2cm will be much harder, even at 0.5mm/day.