Quote from: LAGrowin on November 05, 2017, 06:24:06 AMI don't know this doctor or anything about his patients, but how the heck does he "look like a money hungry scum bag" ? why tarnish his name without knowing enough. Because he claims he "coined" a term?
Nothing wrong with the videos. As we all should know, the amount someone can lengthen is case by case. So le lengthened someone a full 6", yes possible, and could've been perfectly fine for that patient.
True, at that price you save a little more ($20k), and use Paley. For me, I can afford Paley now but won't use him due to location and simple practicality. I'm planning on using Mahboubian, who is 40 minutes from me. I've personally met three of Dr. Ms patients who lengthened femurs and they are all perfectly fine. A few minor complications here or there, but it is part of the show.
With all due respect, think before you talk out of your .... So easy to type away.
I don't have to think about anything. He has two years doing limb lengthening on his own and has his own phrase as I've never heard anyone say that before. We know little about him so for the price he is charging it would be better to go to paley. I did not mention Mahoubian but he has more of a reputation and is cheaper and if he is that close then obviously that is other reason for you to go to him. But he has nothing to do with this other doctor. People are adults and can decided for themselves so there is nothing wrong with others expressing different opinions. When he talks about lengthening 6 inches he probably means by multiple surgerys because if not then it would be undeniable proof that he is money hungry.
Dr. Kevin Debiparshad (Las Vegas, USA) Limbplastx Institute
Quote from: Big Daddy on November 05, 2017, 06:34:47 AMFigures a prospective patient of the most money hungry doctor in the USA says things like "you can lengthen 6 inches and be fine". Post a single case of that really being true.
Lol!!!! Come at me!
Yes Big Daddy.
Tibias and Femurs. Separately. Can you not?
Yes or No? Case by case.
Money hungry. How dare these doctors charge for their specialized service?!!
JA!!!
Too pricey, for this price it's better to go to Paley for sure. I believe that Paley accepts $85k for a femur surgery in cash upfront.
I have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure, much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
Quote from: Android on November 05, 2017, 07:57:44 PMI have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure, much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
Do you honestly think that limb lengthening will ever be viewed as the same light as rhinoplasty to the general public? So his "efforts" if genuine will not mean anything.
Quote from: Android on November 05, 2017, 07:57:44 PMI have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure, much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
Thank you Android. Well said !!
Quote from: Bander72 on November 05, 2017, 08:20:48 PMDo you honestly think that limb lengthening will ever be viewed as the same light as rhinoplasty to the general public? So his "efforts" if genuine will not mean anything.
Same light? Who knows. At least on the same stage, sure.
I'm half Japanese, and it's interesting just how detached they are from any form of cosmetic anything. For instance, they've finally started accepting braces for teeth; not long ago it was seen as extreme or vain. There's still resistance, but it's gaining traction due to celebrities getting their teeth fixed to look good on high definition programming.
The point I'm making is that with exposure, the initial shock goes away. It takes time to shed taboo. For instance, hair transplants are slowly becoming less taboo, with celebrities coming out about their procedures on social media. Yes, CLL is much more extreme, but revolutionary products like PRECISE have made it more palatable (and therefore marketable), especially in comparison to relatively barbaric external frames.
A goal to make cosmetic limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure is something a doctor with no moral scrupals would do because there is absolutely no way around the fact that you are permanently reducing a person's basic functions just for the sake of vanity, something that no other cosmetic procedures do. As a doctor he is well aware of the permanent complications and drawbacks, some that can and some that WILL take place. The fact that he is marketing the cosmetic aspect of this so heavily when this is only necessary for injuries or discrepancies in limb length makes this doctor a total ahole, and that's putting it lightly.
And anyone who thinks more marketing will make this surgery more acceptable is deluded. It just increases the amount of people who will know what you did and think of you as an insecure ignoramus.
So which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is the doctor creating the demand, or did the demand create the doctor? I'd say the latter.
It's about risk versus reward. We do a lot of things that are not exactly good for us, like drinking or smoking. We're marketed to do it, society encourages or discourages us, and we manage it together. The doctors are filling a need, and it's completely optional to do so. This forum and its ilk are very, very niche. Those that consider these surgeries aren't getting it at a drive thru without a second though, but many do a lot of homework beforehand before making the commitment, weighing both risk and reward.
Hard to believe you think that marketing doesn't familiarize and desensitize a person to an idea, but to each their own.
This thread has been derailed, we're no longer talking about the doctor. If any one else would like to continue this discussion, please do so elsewhere.
Quote from: Android on November 05, 2017, 09:26:44 PMSo which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is the doctor creating the demand, or did the demand create the doctor? I'd say the latter.
It's about risk versus reward. We do a lot of things that are not exactly good for us, like drinking or smoking. We're marketed to do it, society encourages or discourages us, and we manage it together. The doctors are filling a need, and it's completely optional to do so. This forum and its ilk are very, very niche. Those that consider these surgeries aren't getting it at a drive thru without a second though, but many do a lot of homework beforehand before making the commitment, weighing both risk and reward.
Hard to believe you think that marketing doesn't familiarize and desensitize a person to an idea, but to each their own.
This thread has been derailed, we're no longer talking about the doctor. If any one else would like to continue this discussion, please do so elsewhere.
Yes there is a market, a small one in comparison to other cosmetic procedures. And did you compare the surgery to drinking and smoking? It's not the same thing as most people would not bat a eye lash if they knew you drank or smoked. Where as if they knew you broke your bones to get taller they would question your mental state. And lol no marketing will disensitize this niche surgery.
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