Hi Yagen!
I don't really have a set schedule. I stretch throughout the day whenever I'm on my bed and while I work on the computer. So for example, even now while typing this reply, I'm doing leg raises:
I also do a lot of this while I'm watching youtube or whatever:
Glenn,
First off congrats on your gain, it's good to hear you've made good on your goals.
Second, in terms of recovery, do you think this method of lengthening (cross-leg) is faster in terms of recovery overall? I ask because my goal is to just do all segments at once for a total gain of 8 cm, but I'm having a hard time thinking of the best and fastest way to do so. Id love to do what Iamready is doing but at the same time doing it cross leg like you seems to be a much more flexible means to do so
What is the time frame Monegal gave you for this method? Do you think I'd be possible for you to return to normal in exactly a year?
Quote from: bluebarbie on November 17, 2015, 12:32:23 PMHi, glen
I read that it is difficult to bend the your knees on the femur side. May i know how?
Which areas are painful and what kind of pains are they? How much can you bend now?
Wishing u fasted recovery.
Hi Blue!
Ok, let me try to describe it.
When I do this exercise, much like the woman in the picture, my left leg can only bend about 90+ degrees at the knee. It's a similar movement to grabbing your tibia and trying to bring your knee to your chest.
There is no pain when I flex from 0 degrees to 90 degrees, but once I cross a bit more past that threshold I can feel tightness in the middle region of my quadriceps. If I force myself to bend a little further, that tightness begins to turn into pain. The pain stops when I release that pose.
Currently I can bend pretty much exactly like the lady in the picture...about 95 degrees or so?
Hope that helps! Let me know if anything's not clear.
Hi Alu!
Quote from: Alu on November 17, 2015, 04:32:54 PMFirst off congrats on your gain, it's good to hear you've made good on your goals.
Thanks man, I've been thinking of it for many years, so that's why I'm so grateful for everybody that is helping me make my goals come true.
Quote from: Alu on November 17, 2015, 04:32:54 PMSecond, in terms of recovery, do you think this method of lengthening (cross-leg) is faster in terms of recovery overall? I ask because my goal is to just do all segments at once for a total gain of 8 cm, but I'm having a hard time thinking of the best and fastest way to do so. Id love to do what Iamready is doing but at the same time doing it cross leg like you seems to be a much more flexible means to do so
Hmmm... In purely theoretical terms, I would think the most efficient way to do it is to: first do two segments; wait about a week or two; then do the other two segments; stay in bed for 4+ months while mega-dosing on 6000+ calories per day (taking over the daily limit of calcium/D/protein); at least 2 full PT sessions per day in bed; electro-therapy to prevent atrophy; and maybe even some disputed bone-growth methods like ultrasound or magnets.
But that's just science fiction. 
Practically speaking though, I currently believe that cross-leg manages the risk better than same-segment. Like I said in an earlier post, it allows you to stagger your concentration: when you're dealing with femur issues, your tibia is fine; when you're battling tibia issues, your femur is fine.
Also, I want to say that quadrilateral lengthening should be viewed more as a marathon rather than a sprint. Instead of choosing the method that is "quickest," it might be more prudent to pick a method that is "more comfortable for most of the time" since it will be a long grind either way. (You might even consider same-leg, where you have one good leg at all times during your LL... but I don't have any experience with that).
I think Iamready clarified in his post today, he's done tibiae already but he's still awaiting to do femurs. He hasn't done all four segments at once if that's what you're thinking.
Maybe you have proportion concerns, but to answer your question: the quickest way to do 8cm, hands down, is to do bilateral femurs, not quadrilateral. Is it worth it to do quadrilaterals for 3+5 just to avoid proportion neurosis? IMHO not at all.
Quote from: Alu on November 17, 2015, 04:32:54 PMWhat is the time frame Monegal gave you for this method? Do you think I'd be possible for you to return to normal in exactly a year?
Dr. Monegal never gave me an exact time frame, he just said the schedule I did in my second post was fine. Too soon to say when I will return to normal, but judging by how fast my legs are getting stronger I'm conservatively optimistic about aiming for less than a year.
To give you another perspective: while I was at the MIC, there was a teenager there that was doing cross-leg quads as well. He did his second surgery on his fourth month, post-op. Before the second surgery, he was able to walk unaided for short distances (albeit unevenly since his knees were at different heights). If I remember correctly he did 4.8+6.2cm. Obviously, younger people heal faster, though.
Quote from: glenn on November 17, 2015, 04:51:00 PMHi Blue!
Ok, let me try to describe it.
When I do this exercise, much like the woman in the picture, my left leg can only bend about 90+ degrees at the knee. It's a similar movement to grabbing your tibia and trying to bring your knee to your chest.
There is no pain when I flex from 0 degrees to 90 degrees, but once I cross a bit more past that threshold I can feel tightness in the middle region of my quadriceps. If I force myself to bend a little further, that tightness begins to turn into pain. The pain stops when I release that pose.
Currently I can bend pretty much exactly like the lady in the picture...about 95 degrees or so?
Hope that helps! Let me know if anything's not clear.
Hi glen. Thank u for the answers..they pretty much helped. I see what u mean by pulling the fibs inwards to your chest. I have been not long since i could do that to stretch my quads too. It helped alot for the increase in bending. Do u feel any pain around the knee areas coz...in the early mornings when i feel the most stiffness , i feel pain jist abouve the knees and under the kneecap. Do u have that pain at any time when u try to push further of ur knee bend.
Thank u. And one more thing i need to know is when u sit, lie down straight or walk upright ,is the bending the same as 90 or does it get restrited much lesser. Thanks
Hey Blue!
No problem, I'm glad to compare notes.
Quote from: bluebarbie on November 18, 2015, 04:26:23 AMDo u feel any pain around the knee areas coz...in the early mornings when i feel the most stiffness , i feel pain jist abouve the knees and under the kneecap.
I don't feel any knee pain on my femur side, but I do feel pain below the kneecap on my tibia side. It happens when I lift my leg during walking. I noticed a bit of improvement compared to last week. Like you, it also improves after I warm up during the day. Is this the same thing you're talking about?
Quote from: bluebarbie on November 18, 2015, 04:26:23 AMDo u have that pain at any time when u try to push further of ur knee bend.
The pain disappears as soon as I release the pose. If I've done a good stretch then I might have some burning sensation linger on for a while, but in a good way, like how you feel after you've had a good workout.
Quote from: bluebarbie on November 18, 2015, 04:26:23 AMAnd one more thing i need to know is when u sit, lie down straight or walk upright ,is the bending the same as 90 or does it get restrited much lesser. Thanks
Yes, there is a difference for me. When I lie on my stomach it seems I can't bend my knees that far. But the difference is negligible. I'm not sure, but I would suspect that it's because it has something to do with how the pelvis is tilted when you're sitting or laying prone that does something.
Also, I saw your gym videos you posted. I wasn't going to say anything since I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that it looks more like "exercising" rather than "stretching." When I stretch I usually hold the pose at the apex of the movement for about 15 to 30 seconds. If it's a dynamic stretch, like a lunge, I'll still hold the pose for a few seconds before completing the action. I'm not saying you should follow what I've said, since maybe your PT has taught you something different. I'm just pointing out something that I noticed, that's all.
Hey Glenn, very few people get to dream and achieve! Respect!
Can you ask Dr. Monegal the following question if possible? 
Which scenario can be favorable for a solid recovery? For a underwear model who is 177 cm tall without affecting the proportions. Assuming cost and recovery time is not an issue!
1. 2-3 cm Internal femur (Fitbone), 2 cm External Tibia or 2cm Internal Tibia (Fitbone) - If guaranteed no knee pain.
2. 4-5 cm Internal femur (Fitbone) If proportions difference won't be visible.
I often climb mountains and kite surf, i don't want to affect my hobbies by lower perfomance. I will take you advice/suggestions as well while we wait for Dr. Monegal.
Quote from: Average2Tall on November 20, 2015, 05:57:42 PMHey Glenn, very few people get to dream and achieve! Respect!
Can you ask Dr. Monegal the following question if possible?
Which scenario can be favorable for a solid recovery? For a underwear model who is 177 cm tall without affecting the proportions. Assuming cost and recovery time is not an issue!
1. 2-3 cm Internal femur (Fitbone), 2 cm External Tibia or 2cm Internal Tibia (Fitbone) - If guaranteed no knee pain.
2. 4-5 cm Internal femur (Fitbone) If proportions difference won't be visible.
I often climb mountains and kite surf, i don't want to affect my hobbies by lower perfomance. I will take you advice/suggestions as well while we wait for Dr. Monegal.
Hey Average2Tall,
Great questions, thanks! But if you have any questions for the doctor feel free to email him directly at: [email protected]
Don't worry, Dr. M is really nice and responds emails promptly.
Thanks!
Hey Glenn, stupid one here!
Do you feel horny sometimes? i mean now when you have started getting a bit comfortable with LL, do you think of your girl, girls, watching porn or whatever fetish regarding sex?
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