Fat women starting to become "attractive", but us short men?

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QuoteYou never stated any evidence for your position that short men are equal to fat women in repulsiveness.

there are many studies and documentaries which state and prove that height is the single most important factor for attraction that women look for.

there are many studies that show that weight is the single most important factor men look at when choosing a woman as a mate, in fact out of all the things men say they are scared of when dating a woman online the answer is ALWAYS THE SAME, they are very scared that the woman that turns up will be fat....... they could pick anything......but the single most important factor and thing that scares them the most is a fat woman.

given that this is the primary drive for both sexes when looking for a sexual partner it is definitely an equal comparison.

I agree with TOMD.

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the problem read rothbard is that your only capable of looking at the world through your own eyes.

you lack the ability to see the world through others perception.

and so because of this inability to empathise you judge people as automatically having negative characteristics when the scenario or opinion does not benefit you. this is selfish and has nothing to do with reality. but rather your inability to come to terms with reality and the truth.

when you are older and have more wisdom perhaps you will be able to understand other people and their view points instead of just your own desires.

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Thank you forcedp.

I am not here to rain on anyones parade. I am in the same boat as all of you here. I am not here to breathe down your throat and go YOU SUCK just to make you miserable. We simply need to address a reality that we want to deny .

We want to deny it because deep down inside we know there is nothing we can do so we need to make the best of it. Now that we can do CLL , we can come out of the closet and admit what we could not admit before.

Here is a good article on being short. Not only are we judged, we get yelled at if we try to complain about it.

http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/discrimination-against-short-men

Here is one for fat women . It argues that they actually have it a little better than we do. There are male 'chubbie chasers' who like fat chicks. There are no 'little guy' chasers where a subset of women cream over us.

http://www.quora.com/Dating-wise-are-short-guys-as-attractive-to-women-as-fat-girls-are-attractive-to-men

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Quote from: ForcedPuberty on December 30, 2014, 04:38:48 PMthe problem read rothbard is that your only capable of looking at the world through your own eyes.

you lack the ability to see the world through others perception.

and so because of this inability to empathise you judge people as automatically having negative characteristics when the scenario or opinion does not benefit you. this is selfish and has nothing to do with reality. but rather your inability to come to terms with reality and the truth.

when you are older and have more wisdom perhaps you will be able to understand other people and their view points instead of just your own desires.

I absolutely can see your position through your eyes. That's why I can so easily debunk it.

As for your claimed studies, you are wrong. It had been shown that penis size, muscularity, shoulder-to-waist ratio, etcetera are just as important as height, or even more so, when it comes to sexual attractiveness. I would liken height to breast size in that matter.

After all, how else would you have 5'6-5'8 male strippers?

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Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 30, 2014, 07:01:38 PMI absolutely can see your position through your eyes. That's why I can so easily debunk it.

As for your claimed studies, you are wrong. It had been shown that penis size, muscularity, shoulder-to-waist ratio, etcetera are just as important as height, or even more so, when it comes to sexual attractiveness. I would liken height to breast size in that matter.

After all, how else would you have 5'6-5'8 male strippers?

In my opinion you havent 'debunked' anything. All you have done is serve up a false equivalence to defeat the rule.

You site 5ft6 -5ft8 strippers as this example of how society doesnt judge short men. Well its not a fair example at all. That example of men are extremely rare.

5ft 6 to 8 male strippers are not really 'short' per se. Show us legions of 5ft 2 strippers and then you will have a valid point.  Further to this, for every 5ft8 stripper there are 10 6ft tall male strippers. You have tried to make is seem like women dont care if the guy is 5ft 6 -8 or 6ft feet tall which is nonsense. Of course they do.

You think the strip club owner rejects the 6ft strippers because the 5ft 8 stripper draws the ladies in? That would have to be one hell of an attractive and well hung stripper.

The 5ft 6 to8 stripper is going to be unusually good looking and in fantastic shape. You are using the exception to try to over throw the rule.

So we should all get plastic surgery to attain hollywood looks and work out like Arnie to have a better body than 99% of the male population? That is if we are 5ft 6 tall at the smallest. What if we are shorter than that?

Assuming most of us on here are not in the 1% of hollywood looks nor are challenging for the Mr Universe title, then what are we supposed to do? You forgot to cite an example for the 99% of us who cant become unusually good looking short male strippers.

The world I live in judges short men. It takes a suspension of disbelief to think you are any different or you wouldnt be on this site.

My point still stands. What is really going on here is that you dont want to accept what we are telling you because its challenging something within you that you arent ready to accept.

We are not attractive to the attractive women. The second rate women settle for us just like we settle for them. They see beyond our height because all the tall men have rejected them.

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This site is about limb lengthening, not a pity party board for men who feel emasculated to cry about how ugly they feel.

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Quote from: Sean Connery on December 30, 2014, 07:36:13 PMThis site is about limb lengthening, not a pity party board for men who feel emasculated to cry about how ugly they feel.

thank you 007

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Quote from: TomD on December 30, 2014, 07:31:24 PMIn my opinion you havent 'debunked' anything. All you have done is serve up a false equivalence to defeat the rule.

You site 5ft6 -5ft8 strippers as this example of how society doesnt judge short men. Well its not a fair example at all. That example of men are extremely rare.

5ft 6 to 8 male strippers are not really 'short' per se. Show us legions of 5ft 2 strippers and then you will have a valid point.  Further to this, for every 5ft8 stripper there are 10 6ft tall male strippers. You have tried to make is seem like women dont care if the guy is 5ft 6 -8 or 6ft feet tall which is nonsense. Of course they do.

You think the strip club owner rejects the 6ft strippers because the 5ft 8 stripper draws the ladies in? That would have to be one hell of an attractive and well hung stripper.

The 5ft 6 to8 stripper is going to be unusually good looking and in fantastic shape. You are using the exception to try to over throw the rule.

So we should all get plastic surgery to attain hollywood looks and work out like Arnie to have a better body than 99% of the male population? That is if we are 5ft 6 tall at the smallest. What if we are shorter than that?

Assuming most of us on here are not in the 1% of hollywood looks nor are challenging for the Mr Universe title, then what are we supposed to do? You forgot to cite an example for the 99% of us who cant become unusually good looking short male strippers.

The world I live in judges short men. It takes a suspension of disbelief to think you are any different or you wouldnt be on this site.

My point still stands. What is really going on here is that you dont want to accept what we are telling you because its challenging something within you that you arent ready to accept.

We are not attractive to the attractive women. The second rate women settle for us just like we settle for them. They see beyond our height because all the tall men have rejected them.

The straw men arguements in this post are so unbelievably mind blowing. Nowhere have I ever stated that the world doesn't judge short men or that short men are disadvantaged when it comes to being attractive. All I've said is that for men 5'5-5'8, being short is not the end of the world when it comes to physical attractiveness and that short men are not equal to fat women.

Do you even know what you're trying to argue? Your points of debate seem to change with every post. This isn't even a debate until you can settle on a single fixed position you are attempting to argue.

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QuoteWe are not attractive to the attractive women

it is true. and that is the hardest part of having a height limitation. there will always be some very attractive women who will like you, but for the most part they will want something equal to their level of attractiveness and short men will be mostly overlooked. the truth hurts some people, but we have to come to terms with it.

read rothbard.

its simple the most important trait a woman looks for in a man is his height. deal with it.

stop trying to downplay its importance. it is the most important trait for female sexual attraction.

let me repeat. HEIGHT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC THAT WOMEN WANT IN A MAN. (minus a very small sub sect of the population who are exceptions)

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U all pretend to have attractive women and u get upset if they want the same, coherence at its best