Quote from: tallerz on April 22, 2016, 05:45:47 AMBOOM!
I rest my case.
Words on a screen from someone with four posts is enough to convince you?
Let me help clarify some stuff here...... if you are on here looking for LL.... chances are you are not a real athlete... those guys are training their asses off and too busy trying to get to the top of their sport to have anytime to BS around with this site. Like every diary on here you will NOT get to world class level or "athlete" level or whatever the fk you think you are before LL. No one here has and no one will be the exception, because of what you are doing to your muscles and tendons. So stop fooling yourselves and let this nonsense(thread) die!
Quote from: Thatdude950 on April 22, 2016, 07:14:45 AMWords on a screen from someone with four posts is enough to convince you?
You're right...my 16 page diary and 190 posts from the other site count for nothing.
Quote from: stillyoung on April 22, 2016, 05:05:56 AMThe commentary in this post is killing me.
As far as recovery goes, you get out what you put in. Consider a person who does LL then doesn't stretch or do physio and uses LL as an excuse not to train hard post-LL. That person will never reach their pre-LL ability.
I do tend to agree with the comment made that even Pre-LL, your body is only conditioned to some percentage of its physical potential. Post-LL, that potential may decrease in certain aspects of physical ability, stay the same, and go up in others (endurance, flexibility, agility, speed, strength, power, etc.).
For myself, I can say this: I'm every bit as flexible as I was pre-LL. Granted, I have to work harder to maintain that flexibility these days (which may be partially attributed to ageing). In terms of endurance, I can actually run longer distances than I ever could pre-LL. Leg strength is the same as it was pre-LL. I'm definitely slower at sprinting than I used to be, but it would be wrong to say LL is the sole reason for that - ageing, different bio mechanics, not having sprinted in nearly a decade, etc. Agility is a bit reduced. Power is roughly the same.
In sum, I'm in better shape now at 30 and post-LL than I was as a 22 year old college sprinter...and I've trained every single day since LL to get here.
Stillyoung,
Here is my definition of "recovered", perhaps you could tell me if you can do all these things?
Basically anything a normal, healthy person could do on a daily basis: (I do all these things now)
Walk
Jog
Run 5k
Ride a bike
Hike/Hunt/Fish (moderate difficulty)
Sex
Skydive
Weight lift upper body
Weight lift lower body (barbell squat? Leg press? deadlifts?)
Horseback riding
Jeeping (takes a lot of leg work)
Swim
Things I do now that I figure I would have to give up:
Mountain climbing
Half-marathons
Heavy squats (personal best is 300lbs)
Heavy deadlifts (personal best is 305lbs)
Thoughts?
Anyone know how tall Dr. G is? His patient in this video doesn't appear to be that much shorter?
Quote from: CCMidwest on April 22, 2016, 08:04:10 PMStillyoung,
Here is my definition of "recovered", perhaps you could tell me if you can do all these things?
Basically anything a normal, healthy person could do on a daily basis: (I do all these things now)
Walk
Jog
Run 5k
Ride a bike
Hike/Hunt/Fish (moderate difficulty)
Sex
Skydive
Weight lift upper body
Weight lift lower body (barbell squat? Leg press? deadlifts?)
Horseback riding
Jeeping (takes a lot of leg work)
Swim
Things I do now that I figure I would have to give up:
Mountain climbing
Half-marathons
Heavy squats (personal best is 300lbs)
Heavy deadlifts (personal best is 305lbs)
Thoughts?
Great question.
Quote from: CCMidwest on April 22, 2016, 08:05:44 PMAnyone know how tall Dr. G is? His patient in this video doesn't appear to be that much shorter?
he could be under 5'10 or 6'1 but dont care
So bike is good for recovery ? Maybe i'll buy a house bike we can find for 100 €
Hey CCMidwest, did my best to answer your questions 
Walk - of course
Jog - yep, every day
Run 5k - I run 3 miles a day, roughly 7:30/mi pace.
Ride a bike - yes
Hike/Hunt/Fish - yes/no/no (I've never attempted the second two)
Sex - yes
Skydive - you couldn't pay me to jump out of a plane
Weight lift upper body - yep
Weight lift lower body - yes to squat, leg press, and deadlifts.
Horseback riding - probably?
Jeeping - i have no idea what this is
Swim - yes
Mountain climbing - I climb; I guess it depends on how intense you are
Half-marathons - wouldn't ever do this in the first place, so it's never been an issue
Heavy squats - I can do 185 for 6-8 reps. I don't go much higher
Heavy deadlifts - I can do sets of 8-10 at 225.
I guess the three things to note here are (1) I did 6.5cm on femurs, (2) I wasn't a world class athlete but did win collegiate championships, and (3) I still train everyday.
Stillyoung, thanks for the reply.
Jeeping is off roading with a lifted jeep.
Mountain climbing with equipment.
Anyway, that seems like a damn fine recovery.
You run 5k in under 23 minutes? I help organize several charity 5k's and the average time for runners is closer to 35 minutes. That's fast man. (fastest I've seen is 16 minutes or so, world record I think is 12)
Your squat is light (no offense), but your dead is way better than I expected.
I could live with the recovery you outlined here.
Thanks!
Quote from: stillyoung on April 23, 2016, 02:17:06 AMHey CCMidwest, did my best to answer your questions
Walk - of course
Jog - yep, every day
Run 5k - I run 3 miles a day, roughly 7:30/mi pace.
Ride a bike - yes
Hike/Hunt/Fish - yes/no/no (I've never attempted the second two)
Sex - yes
Skydive - you couldn't pay me to jump out of a plane
Weight lift upper body - yep
Weight lift lower body - yes to squat, leg press, and deadlifts.
Horseback riding - probably?
Jeeping - i have no idea what this is
Swim - yes
Mountain climbing - I climb; I guess it depends on how intense you are
Half-marathons - wouldn't ever do this in the first place, so it's never been an issue
Heavy squats - I can do 185 for 6-8 reps. I don't go much higher
Heavy deadlifts - I can do sets of 8-10 at 225.
I guess the three things to note here are (1) I did 6.5cm on femurs, (2) I wasn't a world class athlete but did win collegiate championships, and (3) I still train everyday.
You have dispelled all my fears. I would be more than glad with this level of recovery.
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