Hi all,
Have been reading the forums for a while now but only just made an account as I'm loving the content especially the diaries people have devoted so much time to writing.
I have always been upset about my height as it makes me feel inferior and no matter how successful I become my height will always be the thing people remember about me, it's as if I need to be more handsome, more charming and more charismatic than someone taller than me just to be even and it drives me crazy!
It's made dating difficult because even if that person doesn't think of height as a meaningful attribute (which is rare) the thoughts in my head about being inferior are always there and how can I expect someone to love me if I don't love myself?
The solution to this problem is not therapy; therapy doesn't stop girls saying if you were just a bit taller you would be perfect or guys squaring up to you trying to intimidate you because they think short equates to weak.
The solution is most definitely leg lengthening however as I'm sure most of you are aware it is prohibitively expensive allowing only the most fortunate to undergo the surgery.
I have built up a stock portfolio currently valued at £25,000 and with an estimated gain of 20% per annum and investing £12,000 extra per annum I will be a millionaire on my 40th birthday....
my question is if you are constantly suffering mentally due to height neurosis at 25 would you spend all the money you saved (and take out £25,000 loan) to cure your mental illness at the cost of not becoming a millionaire?
I'm leaning towards spending everything and taking a loan out to cure myself of this illness so I can lead a normal, happy life.
I've already wasted two years of what should be the best years of my life being depressed. I honestly don't think I can take another year; I want to find someone to create memories with and love not sat in my room at the weekend crying because of how much this dictates my life and stops me from going out and meeting new people.
What are others thoughts? what would you do in my situation?
Quote from: Random Hero on October 09, 2016, 01:12:46 PMHi all,
Have been reading the forums for a while now but only just made an account as I'm loving the content especially the diaries people have devoted so much time to writing.
I have always been upset about my height as it makes me feel inferior and no matter how successful I become my height will always be the thing people remember about me, it's as if I need to be more handsome, more charming and more charismatic than someone taller than me just to be even and it drives me crazy!
It's made dating difficult because even if that person doesn't think of height as a meaningful attribute (which is rare) the thoughts in my head about being inferior are always there and how can I expect someone to love me if I don't love myself?
The solution to this problem is not therapy; therapy doesn't stop girls saying if you were just a bit taller you would be perfect or guys squaring up to you trying to intimidate you because they think short equates to weak.
The solution is most definitely leg lengthening however as I'm sure most of you are aware it is prohibitively expensive allowing only the most fortunate to undergo the surgery.
I have built up a stock portfolio currently valued at £25,000 and with an estimated gain of 20% per annum and investing £12,000 extra per annum I will be a millionaire on my 40th birthday....
my question is if you are constantly suffering mentally due to height neurosis at 25 would you spend all the money you saved (and take out £25,000 loan) at the cost of not becoming a millionaire?
I'm leaning towards spending everything and taking a loan out to cure myself of this illness so I can lead a normal, happy life but what are others thoughts? what would you do in my situation?
Hi there, I would take the million dollars of course. But the thing is you can't guarantee that you can make 20%. If you could then you could trade with borrowed money, and still do your surgery.
Also as someone who trades, when you're trading 10k, you're going to act differently than when you're trading 100k, you will take your profits and losses much sooner, potentially ruining your system.
Anyways, feel free to pm. I love talking stocks and am interested in your method.
Go for it.
You're young. Doing it at 40 year old would prevent you from living your next 15 years happily. You can book a cheap surgeon if you've got time and will anyway, and not to spend as much as 25 000 £.
£25,000 is good enough to have externals in India or China and gain 6cms. You will also lose a lot of time though.
I would sell my portfolio and do the surgery.
If height is the only thing holding you back, do the surgery.
Don't live a life of "what if"s.
Remember: In the end, we regret the most the things we didn't do
Have you really actually tried to see a shrink? I'm asking because a lot of what you're saying seems to boil down to just basic narcissism. Sorry to say, but even if you get LL and get to 5'11 your mindset will still hold you back. There's always someone who's better than you: deal with it (the inverse can be said too..)
I feel like you're oversimplified a lot about life. Unless you might live in the Netherlands or a secret town in which everyone is 6+, the amount of crap you think you're getting from you height should all be in your head. I don't know your life story (and frankly don't care), so I'm not going to over speculate to much, but the comment "no matter how successful I become my height will always be the thing people remember about me"
screams disillusion.
For your last paragraph: go out there already. Don't waste away your time hold up in some hole thinking you'll never find love or compassion because of height. Try that before you go for the last resort of LL.
height or wealth?
Height. Since wealth can be accumulated while it's better to do LL as young as possible.
I must admit that at first I thought you were really short.... Than I saw you are 5'8. You are "only" 2 inches below average height in the vast majority of the western world... I doubt anyone see you as short or even thinks about your height.. If you were short (like 5'4 and below) believe me that people would have talked about that behind you back...
Quote from: Alu on October 09, 2016, 03:53:44 PM "no matter how successful I become my height will always be the thing people remember about me"
I agree with Alu, this statement is just eh...
I think people will remember your character and behaviour. If you pass this gate then people care about your looks.
Easy example: in my school there was a 6'2 guy, well built etc but no girl wanted to date him beacuse he was an absolute imbecile.
Of course wealth is more important (socially, sexually, and position) many billionaires are short 5'1-5'3 and have the best social, dominant and sexual skills. look at Justin bieber he's handsome but not tall probably 171 but his 300$ million made him something when he was nothing. carlos salim and many many, are very short and tall people beg for them. so wealth is more important of course.
Its a tough question
Height neurosis or short stature is beyond horrible it truly is and i sympathise i can relate to your story and have a lot of sympathy. I suffered the exact same things, women would say 'yeah your handsome, good looking etc but youre too short' etc etc etc. its as frustrating as hell! You feel bitter and angry and it eventually consumes your life.
If you want the surgery done id either do it now or not at all. You must realise though that this surgery comes at costs not just money wise it would be great if that was all it was but it isnt. At 5-8 id advise you to do 5cms on tibias or something similar on femurs, there are pros and cons to both that you must be aware of. Doing tibias you will eventually lose dorsiflexion at a certain point, you may very well be able to regain some but not much or anynat all if you overlengthen. Dorsiflexion is critical for a number of movements for the body and without it walking will become very awkward. Running properly will be a thing of the past. A number of gym movements will become very difficult if not impossible to do safely. If you are into athletic things think very hard about this surgery. If you are an individual who is like the rest of the population who gets up works, goes hime watches soaps, then goes to bed and does this year after year then fine go get it as the difference to your life is minimal.
Its a horrible thing height neurosis or just being short in general but to cure one thing you are potentially swapping one problem with another. There are people on these boards who have never done the surgery who are obviously under the impression that you gain 2-3" then you go home do some stretches let the bone consolidate and you then carry on with life as normal, this isnt the case.
The problem with these boards is any questions regardingthe issues caused by this surgery are generally not answered or ignored. There are too many folk on here that obsess over nonsense like proportions when there is far bigger things to worry about, like making sure you dont overlengthen and screw yourself up. You wont guve a fk about your arms being 1" too short for your body if you cant walk properly again.
If you had cash like a million there would be plenty of women who would be keen on you, theres little difference between a woman who goes for a guy whos rich or one who goes for one who is tall simply because they are either rich or tall. Both will fail as money can only buy so much happiness but someone who is tall will eventually be surplus to requirements as well as the height thing will grow old similar to the material posessions they bought with your money either way both types of women are not the types you want.
I dont get women whongo for for guys simply because they are tall, its the equivalent of guys going with women because they have big tits but literally nothing else going for them
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