How many centimeters below average height a man should be considered 'short'?

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Quote from: TheDream on May 02, 2021, 04:29:21 PMIt is an interesting question that I believe anyone who visits here will have wondered about often, I know I have.
The best answer I have been able to conjure on the matter is this:

Height follows a normal distribution (gaussian distribution in math). With a normal distribution you have what is called a standard deviation, which quantifies the spread. In this case it would be the spread of male heights in the population. One standard deviation is defined as the 68th percentile. Meaning that 68% of male height will lie within this range. Two standard deviations are known as the 95th percentile. Meaning that 95% of male height will lie within this range. Three standard deviations is known as the 99th percentile. Meaning that 99% of male heights will lie in this range.

In the image below you can see the area between -1σ and 1σ is the one standard deviation range. Meaning that 68% of male heights will lie in this range and consequently considered average heights.

Anything below -1σ can objectively be categorized as short in my opinion. Everything above +1σ can be consequently be considered tall in my opinion. Then you have heights below -2σ which is very short and below -3σ extremely short.

What height these ranges correspond to will depend on which country you are living in.

As an example in Denmark, statistics from 2007-2008 show that for young adult males (ages between 18-24) at the time, the mean height in this normal distribution was approximately 182 cm. The 1 negative standard deviation (-σ) was approximately 178 cm. The negative second standard deviation (-2σ) was about 172 cm. The 1 positive standard deviation (σ) was approximately 187 cm, so this is where you would be considered tall. The second positive standard deviation (2σ) was approximately 194 cm, so this where you would be considered very tall.  Source: https://www.sdu.dk/sif/-/media/images/sif/projekter/projekter_dokumenter/kram/resultater/fra+helbredundersoegelsen/anthropometry.pdf

These numbers will of course be different for other countries. If you live in the Netherlands they will be higher while if you live in Italy or Mexico they will be lower. This can also explain why some people here on the LL forums will consider LL at a height of say 5'8" (173 cm) if they live in a tall country, while for someone in a shorter country, 5'8" (173 cm) will be a perfect height and they cannot understand why someone with that height would consider LL.
I can't agree more with you.Someone excessively strict is holding two different principles like in some regions with 175cm average height,174 or 173 cm is short but 176cm or 177cm is just on average.The former conflicts with the latter.That's why you can still see someone stupid over his inhabitat's average height than 5cm he is still considering LL cuz he is too perfectism to accept the truth that he can be called tall already.

And also why women are always seeking for spouses with height over the average height than 10cm and they are still keeping saying he is just normal.

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Quote from: Coeus on May 02, 2021, 04:02:19 PMI've found a phenomenon that although he or she is already taller than a region's average height by even 5cms,still exclaims his height is on average or even below average.I dunno vanity plays a role or it's real that average height is not only just statistic and you should get taller than the average height by 5cm-10cms to be considered as normal.

But I found this phenomenon just in China.

Recently I've met an overseas Chinese girl who said in a European country where she dwells in with 176-177cm average height statistically,a 183cm tall man can be called 'tall' by both men and girls but in China although even millenials average height is only 173cm(You can say 178cm or 180cm but I wanna tell you this thread won't show welcome to retards like you),185cm can win attraction on dating.

Is my country too heightism or average height is just a piece of statistic lie?

It's because of f**dup sex ratio in china. There are a lot more guys and too few girls so that's why they have these ridiculous standards. You can't do anything about that. It is what it is. Get the surgery and move to the US.

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Quote from: overandover on May 03, 2021, 11:49:55 AMIt's because of f**dup sxx ratio in china. There are a lot more guys and too few girls so that's why they have these ridiculous standards. You can't do anything about that. It is what it is. Get the surgery and move to the US.
Actually I'm also planning to dwell in US not simply cuz of imbalanced ratio of two genders.Just cuz I think Chinese education can't create prodigies but only examining robots.To foster a highly intelligent baby I won't let him achieve Chinese education.

Not offense to China but Chinese education is always being blamed for high stresses it is bringing to children but also creating students only placing emphasis on nothing but scores all the time.I dont want my children to be so-called scoring heroes.I think it's the part reason why only Chineses are always insulting short men as disabilities.To be frank I've never heard of foreigners calling short men as disabilties and at most short.Calling short men as disabilities both insult the disable and short men and mostly Chineses can't learn that.

I ain't afraid of your being puzzled in my country even though I grew taller to 175cm after LL,there are also some girls calling me disabilities.I dunno why in a country with 173 average height(Millenials average height.If some Chinese visitors are prone to trying to argue with me that milenials average height is 180cm I won't argue with you cuz in my eyes you're just a retard.Average height of 180cm is taller than most of European countries').

I also found that many Chineses website users are drastically bragging millenials' average height,such as 11 y.o boy is normal if he is 180cm tall or 12 y.o girl is normal if she is 170-172cm tall,and it's more exaggerated that a 185cm tall man can't feel he is a tall man among junior students.

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Quote from: Coeus on May 03, 2021, 12:18:01 PMActually I'm also planning to dwell in US not simply cuz of imbalanced ratio of two genders.Just cuz I think Chinese education can't create prodigies but only examining robots.To foster a highly intelligent baby I won't let him achieve Chinese education.

Not offense to China but Chinese education is always being blamed for high stresses it is bringing to children but also creating students only placing emphasis on nothing but scores all the time.I dont want my children to be so-called scoring heroes.I think it's the part reason why only Chineses are always insulting short men as disabilities.To be frank I've never heard of foreigners calling short men as disabilties and at most short.Calling short men as disabilities both insult the disable and short men and mostly Chineses can't learn that.

I ain't afraid of your being puzzled in my country even though I grew taller to 175cm after LL,there are also some girls calling me disabilities.I dunno why in a country with 173 average height(Millenials average height.If some Chinese visitors are prone to trying to argue with me that milenials average height is 180cm I won't argue with you cuz in my eyes you're just a retard.Average height of 180cm is taller than most of European countries').

I also found that many Chineses website users are drastically bragging millenials' average height,such as 11 y.o boy is normal if he is 180cm tall or 12 y.o girl is normal if she is 170-172cm tall,and it's more exaggerated that a 185cm tall man can't feel he is a tall man among junior students.

All eastern countries are like that. They don't care about mental health and life. It's all about competition and their ridiculous standards.

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In my personal experience <2 inches of the average is short while >2 inches above average is tall. For example, 5'11 is the average in my region. People who are below 5'9 and above 6'1 often get comments from other people.

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180 cm man in china: really is 174 + 5cm thick soles + lie inflation of height

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Quote from: Serilium on May 03, 2021, 06:08:39 PM180 cm man in china: really is 174 + 5cm thick soles + lie inflation of height
Actually it is true that 180cm is a usual height for Chinese millenials,especially in highly developed regions like Shanghai,Beijing,Qingdao,Shijiazhuang and so on.So when some users announce they feel average with 180cm height,I will mostly agree with him.

But nowadays many and many Chineses are writing fairy tales that there are no millenials under 180cm or even 185cm,or something like 175-180cm is the shortest in a normal class.(Yeah...completely beat Crotians and Dutchs hahaha..).And you can also see some so-called 'parents' or even junior students keep running their mouths that 180cm is on average as a 11-12 y.o boy and there are more exaggerated announcements than this.

So I think Chinese average height maybe can step into the first place of the whole world?

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Quote from: Coeus on May 03, 2021, 06:25:49 PMActually it is true that 180cm is a usual height for Chinese millenials
Source missing not everything you read on the computer is true

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180 cm average millennial height in China?

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Where I work I see many rich Chinese in their 20s. Very rarely do you see one over 183cm. There is no way the average is anywhere near 180cm.

Start of the day in boots and lifts then the average might be 180cm.