I can't decide which doctor

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Quote from: xianeffect on October 21, 2021, 11:07:47 PMParihar > Giotikas

Parihar is more internationally recognized and has over 10 years more experience. India also has way more population and Parihar probably has thousands more deformity and injury cases under his belt. This is perfect for the cosmetic lengthening because there is no complications that Parihar has not seen. I am not convinced Giotikas is as great as some try to paint him especially because he is fine with using outdated internal nail that cannot reverse distraction and gives accidental clicks. Greece is not even at Western Europe standards either so you could go to the more experienced doctor in Parihar and then if you have extra money you can stay in the nice Mumbai hotels that all the traveling international people go to.

Saying G nail is outdated is stupid when it is the only internail nail that currently allows full weight bearing. It was outdated when Stryde was available, but it's not anymore. How can it be outdated then? I don't say the nail is perfect, and I've had lots of pain with it, but I walk since day one, whereas with Precice I would have been on a wheelchair. Concerns about accidental clicks are idiotic too, as no one has had bad issues with that here.

Look, I know very little about Parihar and I don't know if he is better or not than Giotikas. I don't like Greece either. But saying tht mechanical nails are outdated when they are the only weighbearing options for femurs... just stupid. Nuvasive circle jerk lol

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Quote from: V21 on October 22, 2021, 06:38:10 AMSaying G nail is outdated is stupid when it is the only internail nail that currently allows full weight bearing. It was outdated when Stryde was available, but it's not anymore. How can it be outdated then? I don't say the nail is perfect, and I've had lots of pain with it, but I walk since day one, whereas with Precice I would have been on a wheelchair. Concerns about accidental clicks are idiotic too, as no one has had bad issues with that here.

Look, I know very little about Parihar and I don't know if he is better or not than Giotikas. I don't like Greece either. But saying tht mechanical nails are outdated when they are the only weighbearing options for femurs... just stupid. Nuvasive circle jerk lol

My observations about G nail:

- No research studies published like there are many with Precice and Stryde. Can you check peer reviewed studies showing the rate of complications with Gnail? You just have to ask the doctors and believe what they say
- No way to reverse the nail
- most surgeons use fat G nails. Like why did Giotikas use the thickest rod for you? It makes no difference because you can weight bear on the thinner G nail also.
- No latency period before lengthening. That is correct Ilizarov way of doing it which most surgeons follow world wide except with G nail.

With stryde problems were quickly caught because it's used by hundreds of surgeons worldwide. It was actually detected first by a surgeon in UK. Volume of G nail cases is so low and only 2 surgeons use it.

Many patients do get great results with G nail (some of the best actually) but I think my overall skepticism is valid.


Future patients need to ask:

- How many g nails have been used world wide till date? Its 12.000+ for Precice
- How many doctors use g nail in its 15+ years of existence
- Does NHS support the use of g nail?
- Are there are any published research papers about it?

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I think, G-nail is approved for use in the UK.

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Quote from: Arcon on October 22, 2021, 11:48:29 AMI think, G-nail is approved for use in the UK.

NHS uses it? That would be a stamp of credibility.

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Quote from: indication on October 22, 2021, 11:33:43 AMMy observations about G nail:

- No research studies published like there are many with Precice and Stryde. Can you check peer reviewed studies showing the rate of complications with Gnail? You just have to ask the doctors and believe what they say
- No way to reverse the nail
- most surgeons use fat G nails. Like why did Giotikas use the thickest rod for you? It makes no difference because you can weight bear on the thinner G nail also.
- No latency period before lengthening. That is correct Ilizarov way of doing it which most surgeons follow world wide except with G nail.

With stryde problems were quickly caught because it's used by hundreds of surgeons worldwide. It was actually detected first by a surgeon in UK. Volume of G nail cases is so low and only 2 surgeons use it.

Many patients do get great results with G nail (some of the best actually) but I think my overall skepticism is valid.


Future patients need to ask:

- How many g nails have been used world wide till date? Its 12.000+ for Precice
- How many doctors use g nail in its 15+ years of existence
- Does NHS support the use of g nail?
- Are there are any published research papers about it?

Those concerns are perfectly valid. That's exactly why I hesitated a lot between G Nail and Precice. In fact, that's the reason I have been really paranoid about bending or breaking the nail, as I did not know how trustworthy it is. However, I do think it's stupid to call mechanical nails "outdated" or "crap", specially when you can find in the last year lots of Betz diaries with Stryde-like results.

People just seem to love Nuvasive ignoring the Stryde debacle and their continuous lies regarding Precice coming back in Europe. Hell, they I got an email from them saying it would come back "much earlier than September": first they said July, then August, then September... I will finish lenghtening in 5 days, and if had chosen Precice I would be having surgery now lol.

Again, I'm not a G nail apologist, and it's perfectly possible I still get some complication (besides the pain). I just think people are being biased regarding mechanical nails, and there are lots of prejudice.

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Quote from: tripleogkush on October 20, 2021, 03:33:06 PM4cm? bro, keep your money. 170cm wont do much. You need 1,75cm+ to be in the normal range.

With 170 cm or even 169 cm he will be in the "normal" range, whatever you mean by your "normal". He will be within 1 Standard deviation from the average in the US (176 cm).
Standard deviation is 7,47.
If you want to be taller it's ok, but don't say incorrectly that people are in an ABnormal "range".