Quote from: 419 on June 04, 2018, 08:00:39 PMhaha, yes - this is very bad - worse then the government run piece of hospital in my tiny village in India. Is this from Parihar's clinic?
Yes it’s Parihar’s hospital.
Go through KiloKAHN’s diary
It’s there.
Quote from: RaaX on June 04, 2018, 08:05:47 PMYes it’s Parihar’s hospital. The entire place is a mess.
Go through KiloKAHN diary tbh
It’s there.
Thanks Dude, I remember I saw the pics and got horrified but then forgot about it. Now I may reconsider Parihar - though I will shift to a hotel in 2 weeks - still staying here for even 2 weeks will be difficult, LOL. My guess is Parihar gets low end patients. For example - not everybody can afford to go to fortis or Columbia Asia, poor people go to small cheap clinics - my guess is Parihar's clinic is targeted for low end customers. No offense to anybody - even my parents were poor and went to govt hospitals like this or worse - I made money so go to Fortis etc.
Quote from: 419 on June 04, 2018, 08:08:54 PMThanks Dude, I remember I saw the pics and got horrified but then forgot about it. Now I may reconsider Parihar - though I will shift to a hotel in 2 weeks - still staying here for even 2 weeks will be difficult, LOL. My guess is Parihar gets low end patients. For example - not everybody can afford to go to fortis or Columbia Asia, poor people go to small cheap clinics - my guess is Parihar's clinic is targeted for low end customers.
I actually considered 2 doctors, first was Xia and next was Parihar tbh
I have already listed the errors of Parihar here so no need to repeat myself.
Then I researched Xia and turns out he doesn’t even do the surgeries and is just a poster boy for the hospital. Some Chinese guys complained about him destroying a girls life and she reported it on weibo and other Chinese social media. This was the main reason why foreigners couldn’t see Xia’s reality. China has their own form of social media and things like FB, YT are all blocked.
Actually make that 3 docs lol
I even considered Donghoon but he charges an amount that is equal to Paley’s and he is trained by Paley, I thought why go to a protege when you can go to the master if the payment is nearly identical tbh
Right now I am back to Paley(holy shet at 140k :s) and Rozbruch(I don’t think he accepts people he considers “average height”)
Quote from: RaaX on June 04, 2018, 08:17:32 PMI actually considered 2 doctors, first was Xia and next was Parihar tbh
I have already listed the errors of Parihar here so no need to repeat myself.
Then I researched Xia and turns out he doesn’t even do the surgeries and is just a poster boy for the hospital. Some Chinese guys complained about him destroying a girls life and she reported it on weibo and other Chinese social media. This was the main reason why foreigners couldn’t see Xia’s reality. China has their own form of social media and things like FB, YT are all blocked.
Actually make that 3 docs lol
I even considered Donghoon but he charges an amount that is equal to Paley’s and he is trained by Paley, I thought why go to a protege when you can go to the master if the payment is nearly identical tbh
Right now I am back to Paley(holy shet at 140k :s) and Rozbruch(I don’t think he accepts people he considers “average height”)
See, there are risks always and especially if one can't afford Paley. I can afford him but only barely (all my savings will be gone if I chose Paley) - so I have decided to stick to a cheaper doctor - I dont want to spend all money I have and become a papuer 
. I am considering Xia, Parihar and russian docs (solomin/Kulesh and Barinov) - but you are right - all except paley have some question marks (including parihar) - actually I may end up choosing Mahboubian that way I wont go bankrupt and still will have a first world surgeon. You seem like you have the money, so go for it - if you can afford Paley - he is the best.
Quote from: 419 on June 04, 2018, 08:23:00 PMSee, there are risks always and especially if one can't afford Paley. I can afford him but only barely (all my savings will be gone if I chose Paley) - so I have decided to stick to a cheaper doctor - I dont want to spend all money I have and become a papuer . I am considering Xia, Parihar and russian docs (solomin/Kulesh and Barinov) - but you are right - all except paley have some question marks (including parihar) - actually I may end up choosing Mahboubian that way I wont go bankrupt and still will have a first world surgeon. You seem like you have the money, so go for it - if you can afford Paley - he is the best.
If I had the money then I wouldn’t be posting here
I would’ve just lurked, gathered knowledge and left.
I am far from my goal of Paley.
Way far...
How much does Mahboubian charge tbh. I haven’t really looked into him. Might start doing so now and why does his name sound iranic, lol
Here is (copy pasted) Mahboubian's reply to me -
"Thank you for contacting us regarding Height Lengthening.
The limb lengthening procedure is considered cosmetic and may not be covered by your insurance. But having insurance would be beneficial to cover the costs of physical therapy, medications and any additional problems/complications that may come up during your treatment.
The most up-to-date procedure uses an intramedullary rod and is called the PRECICE technique. Most candidates are able to increase their height up to 8 cm with one lengthening procedure (usually femurs) without it being an issue. Additional lengthening of the tibias can be performed to increase height further. And, although age is always a consideration, the main concerns regarding candidacy is the health of your bones meaning that you don't have bone disease or infections. It is not recommended to perform lengthening on the femurs and tibias simultaneously due to higher complication rates including fat embolism, joint contracture and nerve damage.
The first step in the process is to determine if the Limb Lengthening procedure is right for you. To do this you will need to set up a consultation so that you can be properly evaluated. During the consultation Dr. M will examine you and take x-rays of your legs. At that time you will be given all the necessary information including costs, duration and treatment options. You will be able to perform the distraction in the comfort of your own home. You will also not be completely wheelchair bound and will be able to stand and take a few steps for transfers. The recovery time is from 3-4 months before you can walk without any assistance and 6-8 months for competitive sports.
The cost of the surgery ranges from $60K - $90K US and is dependent upon the procedure performed. The cost includes equipment, surgery fees, hospital fees and post-op visits during the lengthening phase.
Currently, the only financing available is through Care Credit with the ability to finance the procedure being completely dependent upon your credit rating.
It is recommended that you remain in the United States for the entire lengthening process. If that is not possible, than a minimum of 2-3 weeks are necessary to make sure all went well with the procedure and that the lengthening phase begins well.
Please call 818.322.0126 to set up an appointment.
The Height Lengthening Team.
Please visit our website for further information
http://www.laorthopedics.com"
Quote from: RaaX on June 04, 2018, 08:17:32 PMI actually considered 2 doctors, first was Xia and next was Parihar tbh
I have already listed the errors of Parihar here so no need to repeat myself.
Then I researched Xia and turns out he doesn’t even do the surgeries and is just a poster boy for the hospital. Some Chinese guys complained about him destroying a girls life and she reported it on weibo and other Chinese social media. This was the main reason why foreigners couldn’t see Xia’s reality. China has their own form of social media and things like FB, YT are all blocked.
Actually make that 3 docs lol
I even considered Donghoon but he charges an amount that is equal to Paley’s and he is trained by Paley, I thought why go to a protege when you can go to the master if the payment is nearly identical tbh
Right now I am back to Paley(holy shet at 140k :s) and Rozbruch(I don’t think he accepts people he considers “average height”)
btw ( I have lived in China for 6 months) - forums like these are accessible form there - but yes you are right - not many stories would come here from China.
Quote from: RaaX on June 04, 2018, 07:30:31 PMDidn't he cause an unintended crack in your bones when you had your tibias done? i have so far went to page 5 of your diary.
the rooms are like a trip down memory lane..
This looks ancient to me, i highly doubt Beijing(capital) hospitals look like this especially if they are private hospitals
I live in Hong Kong and i mostly went in and out of government hospitals and even they don't have rooms that look this... rusty.
Dude, a person has to be worried about living in a dirty room, you can catch an infection easily, you have an open wound!!!
Hong Kong likely has a nicer quality than Beijing. I've been to Beijing and other parts of China, and I wouldn't be surprised if the hospital interior looked even more old in some parts.
It was explained that patients with quite solid bone density tend to shatter at the site of the osteotomy. Paley has shattered osteotomies as well and there are recent x-rays showing this. It's not a detriment because it creates more surface area for bone healing, and my bones fully solidified and aligned properly.
As for asking Paley about the weight bearing of Precice, Penguinn was told that there would be a bit of a learning curve being his first internal patient since it is new hardware. Nobody is walking immediately after surgery, so what's the huge issue asking Paley about his experience with weight bearing on the Precice while Penguinn is still not given permission to walk? The Precice manufacturer could tell Parihar one thing but perhaps he found it better to get the opinion of someone who has had multiple Precice patients already? If Penguinn had issues with Parihar, I don't see a reason why he wouldn't say so now that he's no longer in the hospital with him.
The rooms are out of date, not dirty, I think there's a difference there. Dressings are changed twice daily with sterile gauze and cleaned and antibiotics are also given. I didn't get superficial infections any more often than those who went to Russia or facilities with marble interiors. What I know for sure is that I recovered well and so have others who did their surgery with him. It's one thing to report when a doctor is crippling people, it's another to try and create controversy where there's none.
For real you want to have LL with your current height? Goddamn. You are already slightly less than average or taller in most asian countries.
If this forum was really promoting Dr. Parihar, don't you think that they'd use better (or even fake) photos to avoid this kind of negative reaction?
I personally care less about the quality of a room that I'm only going to spend a week in. You have the freedom of choice, pick a clinic that checks all the right boxes for you.
I can attest to KiloKAHN's recovery, he looked great and I didn't spot any problems with his gait.
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