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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 7:24 pm
#1

I've been accused of thinking irrationally about deciding to undergo LL to cure my Height Dysphoria

They say i'm young and that i'll grow out of it or i'll end up accepting/embracing myself.
I doubt that because a year of Therapy hasn't worked, and i've been suffering for about 3 years now, with it getting worse every day.

thinking about this surgery is my "happy-place" whenever i breakdown.
I tend to think of it , i have high hopes.. but people around me seem to shatter them.
It is a dream to me.. It's an escape from being so caught up with useless worries.. I hate worrying about my height. But it's as if there's someone else within me, that just wants to destroy me. it's just not in my hands to decide whether to worry about it or not

I'm not stupid for wanting to fulfill one of my dreams, Am I? Even though it may damage me financially.
No one in my family supports me in this decision. And i'm starting to feel extremely depressed because LL was my only key to happiness... I just can't seem to be at peace unless i fulfill this deeming wish.

Please tell me that LL is a rational decision for young people who are depressed and have Height Dysphoria..

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 8:06 pm
#2

It is ! But ..... we have do do it smart ! It must not prevent us to live our lifes . Think about all the consequences that can happen . For my part I am really worried about cancer and fat  embolism that could happen ( not sure at all for cancer , I'm a bit paranoic ) . Think , take your time , don't screwd up your life . Make money and then do it smart if you think it's worth it . For me if I was 177 or 176 I would never thought about this but I'm a 170 so .... I'm only 19 and i count to do it when I'll be 21 femur and 22 tibs or the opposite ( no one will know ) . But live your life till you get the damn money . Advice wear lift If you're so bad ( till the surgerie )

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 8:24 pm
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Not at all. Not for males under 5'6.

See this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/4q6h7g/4_month_tinder_drought/

Guy went months swiping right on everyone and never even got a single match.

Society is becoming more and more concerned with how you look. The dynamics of dating are shifting, due to things like social media and Tinder. Young women today would rather be caught dead than post a photo with a short dude on social media, or be seen walking with one.

If you're under 5'6, it will be exponentially more difficult to get ANY female attention. Under 5'10? You don't need it, but it would really help.

If you're 5'10+ just wear good sneakers or slide 2cm lifts under the soles, say you're 6', and call it a day.

Of course, if you're older than 30, this all changes. Women will be less picky and willing to settle down. They'll care less about society's judgement and you'll have more of a chance no matter how short you are.

But I'm not going to spend my prime years celibate over a few inches. And I'm only 18 (stopped growing at 15) and I'm already so sick of the just be confident and successful facade. It's a coin toss that sometimes works, but it takes too long, and it still doesn't dismiss the issue entirely. I just want a girl to naturally like me upon first seeing me, no games about it.

With every 2 inches of height gained, the risk of suicide in males goes down a whole 9%.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/it-sucks-to-be-a-short-guy-511

Girls aside, being a short man intrinsically sets you up for a lack of respect anywhere you go. Especially if you want to participate in the upper-tiers of society, good luck. Whenever I've gone to the opera house, a nice restaurant, or the VIP lounge at an airport. Guess what? Average height was 6'1 easily. I feel like a freaking kid walking around. People don't take me seriously at those places, and I don't blame them, the juxtaposition is almost comical.

For most people, who lengthen conservatively (5cm maximum on each segment) and who have realistic expectations about their mobility afterwards, this surgery could really boost your quality of life.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 8:30 pm
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Definitely irrational. I think if we didn't know that leg lengthening was possible, we wouldn't be obsessing about our height- that we would come to accept it. But we do, and most of us see it as a cure for ourselves. If you truly believe this is the answer to cure your height dysphoria and are willing to undergo through the stresses of LL, then do it man! We have one life and we should fulfill whatever we can. Other people don't understand what goes on through our minds and what we have to suffer through. So of course they would think we're insane. Fulfill your dream man, just do it safely and if there's a financial issue, try to save more and work harder until you feel you can handle it. LL isn't an easy goal but very possible if you're determined! Good luck with everything!

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 8:54 pm
#5

How tall are you? I think if you're below average and you spend A LOT of energy thinking about height and you get depressed over it, by all means LL will help. Not irrtational imo, you only have one life and you should do everything you can to have a GOOD LIFE!

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 8:54 pm
#6

For guys under 5'7 I always say yes. Anything over is all about a cost benefit analysis.

Although, I will admit, despite my goal to do so... it's not rational thing to do considering all the lose of time and money, among the more permanent body chances. But again, it's just a cost benefit analysis, and if you don't ever try to take the easy way out (go to cheap doctors) it can be a rational decision after all.

But last thing, while it's certainly important to not get lost in your own thoughts... if you're asking me to validate your thoughts I'd say your not in the best place mate. Especially reading your post man... not going to lie even for me, a year ago when I was at my worst I don't think I was ever as bad as you, and I'm 8 cm shorter than you.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 9:11 pm
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Quote from: DreamOf180cm on December 26, 2016, 08:54:18 PMHow tall are you? I think if you're below average and you spend A LOT of energy thinking about height and you get depressed over it, by all means LL will help. Not irrtational imo, you only have one life and you should do everything you can to have a GOOD LIFE!


I am 5'6.. 168cm

When you capitalized "A LOT of energy".. i couldn't agree more.
90% of my freaking youth is wasted on stressing over this useless problem. I'm getting sick of it.

I am actually depressed. I don't eat properly. I can't sleep without crying once (Yes, as embarrassing as it may seem, i will point this out so you can understand what i'm going through) and I've fallen back in studies.

I've tried to be strong. I've tried to not care.. It just seems to be getting worse and worse, day by day.

I believe LL is irrational but it will definitely turn things around for me..

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 9:15 pm
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Quote from: CaptainAmerica on December 26, 2016, 08:24:09 PMNot at all. Not for males under 5'6.

See this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/4q6h7g/4_month_tinder_drought/

Guy went months swiping right on everyone and never even got a single match.

Society is becoming more and more concerned with how you look. The dynamics of dating are shifting, due to things like social media and Tinder. Young women today would rather be caught dead than post a photo with a short dude on social media, or be seen walking with one.

If you're under 5'6, it will be exponentially more difficult to get ANY female attention. Under 5'10? You don't need it, but it would really help.

If you're 5'10+ just wear good sneakers or slide 2cm lifts under the soles, say you're 6', and call it a day.

Of course, if you're older than 30, this all changes. Women will be less picky and willing to settle down. They'll care less about society's judgement and you'll have more of a chance no matter how short you are.

But I'm not going to spend my prime years celibate over a few inches. And I'm only 18 (stopped growing at 15) and I'm already so sick of the just be confident and successful facade. It's a coin toss that sometimes works, but it takes too long, and it still doesn't dismiss the issue entirely. I just want a girl to naturally like me upon first seeing me, no games about it.

With every 2 inches of height gained, the risk of suicide in males goes down a whole 9%.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/it-sucks-to-be-a-short-guy-511

Girls aside, being a short man intrinsically sets you up for a lack of respect anywhere you go. Especially if you want to participate in the upper-tiers of society, good luck. Whenever I've gone to the opera house, a nice restaurant, or the VIP lounge at an airport. Guess what? Average height was 6'1 easily. I feel like a freaking kid walking around. People don't take me seriously at those places, and I don't blame them, the juxtaposition is almost comical.

For most people, who lengthen conservatively (5cm maximum on each segment) and who have realistic expectations about their mobility afterwards, this surgery could really boost your quality of life.


I've stopped growing at 14.

And i'm not concerned about the women man.. I have no interest in getting feedback from others. I honestly do not care what others say..

I do not like being inferior to others. I don't feel like a man, i feel like a little kid as you said.
I feel small, useless.. all that "gain some confidence" is B.S, it does not solve the problem at all.. just makes you forget it for a while before it jumps up right back at you again.

Also, i don't believe i'll ever "grow out of it" because an insecurity tends to stay with you until the day you die. you just learn how to conceal it, and then end up sobbing alone where no one sees.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 9:17 pm
#9

James24 - I know how you feel, there are times where I cry as well. My high school years went by like   because of my height. Honestly just listen to yourself, if you think you need it, then you probably do. I've already promised myself when I was 15-16 that I would get this done one way or another. I'm 19 atm and I think I will try to do it in 1-2 years.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2016, 9:18 pm
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Quote from: James24 on December 26, 2016, 09:11:22 PMI am 5'6.. 168cm

When you capitalized "A LOT of time".. i couldn't agree more.
90% of my freaking youth is wasted on stressing over this useless problem. I'm getting sick of it.

I am actually depressed. I don't eat properly. I can't sleep without crying once (Yes, as embarrassing as it may seem, i will point this out so you can understand what i'm going through) and I've fallen back in studies.

I've tried to be strong. I've tried to not care.. It just seems to be getting worse and worse, day by day.

I believe LL is irrational but it will definitely turn things around for me..


Is it irrational to want to not be ostracized from society or social circles because you're shorter than everyone else there? Is it irrational to want to prevent your genes from dying out in the gene pool?

Beyond that, why do you think it is irrational? And why even bother calling it that. Do you want it? Good. Who cares whether it's rational or not. Many of the successful people in this world (Ford, Wright brothers, Jobs) were told that their ideas were irrational.

This is your life, you have to endure it. Do exactly what you want with it but always know the weight of the decisions you make.

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