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Posted on Sep 29, 2014, 10:04 pm
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No one should undergo LL unless they are 100% enthusiastic and happy about the idea of altering themselves for societal, personal, emotional gain etc.

The process won't be easy even if you love the idea, and if you don't, then you will have a truly hellish experience. And if you are in that mindset, you probably have issues deeper than just LL will fix.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 12:44 am
#12

I wholeheartedly agree with programdude. You don't just do LL on a whim. It is something that should take years of deliberation, research and introspection. I will agree with leechlet that the reasons why one would subject themselves to something of this nature are f**ked up, however they are rationalized by the individual, but he was clearly in over his head to begin with.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 2:36 am
#13

I wouldn't say that the reasons are fked up so much as the actual process is crazy and fked up. Theres nothing wrong with looking in the mirror and thinking "I'd be more successful/more attractive with some extra height", or "wow I'd be more proportionate if I lengthened X cm". On the contrary its one of the most sane conclusions you could reach. I think it only gets into problem territory when/if someone is coming to conclusions like "I need to be exactly X height to be a human being, I need to reach that exact height no matter what" or any other obsessive thought.

If anything, when completing this surgery you should feel brave, accomplished, and most of all proud. If you are instead beating yourself up that you changed for society then you are a very negative person with deeper issues. Thats like crying over the fact you got braces for nicer teeth or splurged a bit on nice clothes. Yes LL is an extreme augmentation to yourself on every level, but that doesn't make the concept different than any other change.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 5:24 am
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QuoteI wouldn't say that the reasons are f**ked up so much as the actual process is crazy and f**ked up. Theres nothing wrong with looking in the mirror and thinking "I'd be more successful/more attractive with some extra height", or "wow I'd be more proportionate if I lengthened X cm". On the contrary its one of the most sane conclusions you could reach. I think it only gets into problem territory when/if someone is coming to conclusions like "I need to be exactly X height to be a human being, I need to reach that exact height no matter what" or any other obsessive thought.

If anything, when completing this surgery you should feel brave, accomplished, and most of all proud. If you are instead beating yourself up that you changed for society then you are a very negative person with deeper issues. Thats like crying over the fact you got braces for nicer teeth or splurged a bit on nice clothes. Yes LL is an extreme augmentation to yourself on every level, but that doesn't make the concept different than any other change.


very well said.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 9:07 pm
#15

QuoteThink of Leechlet as that rich kid who owns alot expensive stuff and gets picked up in a Porsche in your class that nobody likes. Rich parents and taking things for granted, I bet had he worked his ass off to save that ridiculous amount of money that his parent spent on him to get the surgery he'd be more willing to actually do the hard yards. He just lazed it out, I hated reading his diary. Makes the rest of us look bad

Why don't people stop insulting Leechlet for no reason?
Understand that his goal was to "document his LL journey". He records videos even when his mind is fked up just to give a true picture.

He's not representing anyone. This forum is just an information portal. We're not an open brotherhood. Most (all?) of us want to remain anonymous. He's just doing what he thinks is right. Fine maybe he took a bad decision, but did he ever say he's doing the perfect thing?

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Posted on Sep 30, 2014, 11:15 pm
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QuoteHe records videos even when his mind is f**ked up just to give a true picture



just for the record, when a person mind is fked up they don't give a true picture. your statement is a paradox.

leechlet decided to post the 22 minute ideological social change video telling natural selection to go fk itself. so I pointed it out.

I don't know leechlet and I don't care to know him or read his diary. all I know is a dumb video I found from some kid and so I pointed out how its completely bogus from a stand point of philosophy. leechlets pride all comes from the fact that he thinks he is the genius of the century. and unfortunately a sub sect of the population will watch his video and start to believe in his rubbish that people only want height because society told us we need it, when the truth is that height is determined by evolutionary genetics and then those genetics cause society to reinforce those ideals.

leechlets philosophy only works if genetics don't play a role, such as in Chinese foot binding. trying to equate Chinese foot binding to natural selection is quite ridiculous. and I stand for the truth so if I see idiocracy I will point it out.

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