Quote from: TomD on September 25, 2013, 06:02:11 PMHey Daemon.
I dont mean to horn in on your thread. Your info is invaluable. its awesome! Please keep it up. We need good stories.
In my opinion there is more than one way to skin a cat so to speak.
If Sarin is 'cutting corners' , then lets realize he is also ULTRA cheap in pricing compared to the west. So we have lots of room to bump up the pricing a bit in return for hiring an extra intern or two.
Get the xtra intern at 4k per month (which would bump up the price $1k per person for the 3 months). This guy would spend the entire day wandering the guest house answering patients questions and generally doting on the patients.
This would no doubt resolve most issues. The intern can prescribe mickey mouse diagnosis and certainly take an xr-ray or two. Another option is to INSIST on an x ray anytime they want, if the patient pays for it via debit or whatnot. If the xray shows a problem, its free.
The biggest issue is the ballerina. If Sarin has to tweak his priing slightly to deal with this issue, its well worth it in my opinon to get the guys moving around.
In the end I am no doctor nor have I had any operations so please consider that and have mercy for my potentially ignorant suggestions. 
He may be cheap compared to western doctors, but he charges more for cosmetic LL than almost any orthopedic surgeon in India. There are doctors in India who will do the procedure for between $3,000 - $5,000 for locals and provide stronger frames than Sarin. The thing is a lot of these doctors over there know they can jack the price up for Westerners since they're willing to pay more.
Limb Lengthening In India With Dr Sarin - A Ongoing Thread
Part 7
" I can tell you someone I have learned from being in India and also old forum :
You must qualify the Doctor.
If you send him emails and he replies back very briefly (like responds back in 1-2 words) then most likely he may be quick with you too.
If you have a consultation with him, see his body language. I should have paid attention to the red flags with Dr. Sarin when I had my consultation with him. His answers were very quick and he kept asking if I was done so he can "run away."
The way he is during his consultation is the way he is now: quick, running away, not properly spending time to educate or disclose Infomation etc.
Also, when a Doctor keeps telling you or answering your questions with, " don't worry about anything." all the time, then that's another warning sign, because maybe he doesn't know how to deal with it, or he's trying to run away from the problem. If they keep saying don't worry about anything at the consultation, then most likely that will be the shi* treatment you will get later.
The proper response would be, " yes, these things could happen, but when/if it does happen, these are the steps we take (immediately) to remedy or fix it..."
Not, " Dont worry, it won't happen." or "you can trust me."
If your potential doctor is like that in that he is always rushing you, then be careful because that means in the future if you need him, he may not always be there, or not give you the time you need -- these are your legs after all, this is not get your car fixed up or an oil change.
Also, watch out for other warning signs, ThangQueBitBay mentions in his diary about the 3rd world doctor that fked him up always telling him "not to worry" whenever he brought up concerns, or belittled him because he brought up legitimate concerns.
As ThangQueBiet puts it: "If you are considering going to Vietnam for this operation PLEASE DON'T, PLEASE I BEG YOU. They one thing they will always tell you is "don't worry about anything" and keep quiet about any potential problem you may develop"
So regarding choosing a doctor. Contact the doctor and tell him you are interested and see how he responds. If he responses promptly AND gives you the detailed answers you are looking for, then that's the first step in a several step process in deciding if you should choose him.
Complications happen EVERYWHERE, with even the most skilled Doctors. It's how the Doctor RESPONDS to the situation that determines whether he is a good doctor or a bad doctor "
Part 8
"The first HLN patient got Malaria. And he doesn't know he left with about 2 - 3 cm limb discrepancy.
As well, as femur on his left leg is healed crookedly.
Lengthening 1mm in a single turn a day potentially caused muscle and nerve issues.
Hydraulic Lengthening Nail, the plastic tube came out in an awkward place : on the side of his hip, near his ass."
Part 9
"- My overall opinion on doing LL in India with Dr, Sarin, can I COMFORTABLY AND CONFIDENTLY recommend my family and friends? As of right now, NO, I don't think taking the extra risks is worth it to save some money...this is not like buying clothes, this is not a game; this is your body you're dealing with here, something you have to live with for the rest of your life.
A patient had a complication with his fibula fusing. It was rebroken; at the time the fibula was rebroken, it was only lengthened to 2cm, whereas, his tibula was 6cm; therefore, there is a 4 cm "missing" discrepancy.
Now, this patient complained to Dr. Sarin COUNTLESS times about Pains in his fibula region. Whenever he received his X-Rays he noticed something not right about his fibula. Dr. Sarin told him, "don't worry, it's fine, keep lengthening" which he did even though he was under intense pain.
It wasn't until he got to 6 cm on his Tibia X-Ray that Dr. Sarin FINALLY acknowledged his problem and decided to fix it...BUT LATE, months after the problem had progressed. Now, even if the Fibula was rebroken, there would be a 4 cm gap that may create a non-union (Space where fractured Bone does not heal).
The patients here read up and said that in order to properly heal up he would need a Bone Graft.But Dr. Sarin said different, he said he would just rebrake the bone and see if the bone heals without that sort of intervention. So a few days before surgery, the guy was told they would do an S-cut on him and that everything will be fine.
After surgery, it was revealed that they did NOT do the S-cut, and simply just broke it. He asked for explanations BUT did NOT receive much, and when he asked for a follow up X-Ray, the Doctor said he did NOT need one. He was pissed. When he got back to the guesthouse, the other patients were shocked they did not properly do what they said they would do, and on top of that, did NOT even bother to take a follow up X-Ray.
Patient B (mentioned earlier above) did not go into detail about this guy's complications on his old forum diary, he made it too causual and downplayed the whole process. Possibly so other potential future LLs would not be scared off.
Many times we've talked, what the majority of patients here are frustrated with, is the lack of care and transparency between Doctor and patients. Things are taken too casually, not properly explain, and in fact, sometimes not properly done / done sloppily.
And instead of focusing on preventing problems, issues are usually left till the last moment when they have worsen, before even being recognized and potentially fixed - though with more dramatic and worse after effects from leaving it untreated for so long.
Anyway, A month later, when the patient had to remove his frames, he was in for another, SUDDEN surprise as well. While laying on the Operating Table, before going unconscious from the anathesia, Doctor Sarin felt his ankle and said, "Uh oh, problem."
At that time on the operating table, after hearing there was a problem seconds before blacking out....when he woke up he got a modified frame on his leg.
This isn't the only time someone went into surgery expecting one thing, and waking up with a frame on. This has happened to the 11 month UK guy who later developed Foot Drop (inability to lift entire foot, or toes) on the leg with the second frame; to Crazy+6 when he went for a routine surgery; and now most recently to a well know old forum patient, when he came to get his leg straightened.
The well known old forum patient wanted additional surgery to straighten his legs because they are still slightly Bowed, it was suppose to be a simple procedure and would be walking out the hospital with a cane in a few days...when he woke up, he had frames on. "
This is good stuff Daemon.
I would like to have a 'complaints' section for matters such as these so that the Doctors can have an opportunity to say their side of the story. The site www.ripoffreport.com does this. They dont erase any complaint but allow the defendant to retort.
Hey Leo
Great video. Is that the Sarin guest house? Looks like a lot of guys working out and the place looks very clean.
Quote from: TomD on October 16, 2013, 02:19:53 AMHey Leo
Great video. Is that the Sarin guest house? Looks like a lot of guys working out and the place looks very clean.
That is Dr. Sringari's guest house.
Dr. Sarin's guest house looks clean too, from Calic's and DEM's videos.
people missed my point. I meant to say that after reading about all the complications and downfalls in this particular section of the forum that people have encountered how come not one, but several patients appear on this video and they look like their having the time of their lives (easy journey walking and working out). I know that CLL varies from person to person but now I'm becoming skeptical if some posts are over-exaggerated or not. I mean, some people say easy ride, others hard & painful as f@ck, and others are left in the middle.
Quote from: Leonardo2013 on October 16, 2013, 06:21:03 PMpeople missed my point. I meant to say that after reading about all the complications and downfalls in this particular section of the forum that people have encountered how come not one, but several patients appear on this video and they look like their having the time of their lives (easy journey walking and working out). I know that CLL varies from person to person but now I'm becoming skeptical if some posts are over-exaggerated or not. I mean, some people say easy ride, others hard & painful as f@ck, and others are left in the middle.
Well I think people might be inclined to lie if doctors read the diaries but otherwise I don't see why anyone would lie. Exaggerate for attention? Or to make the diary sound better? I really doubt that. I hope I understood you right.
Quote from: short_and_depressed on October 16, 2013, 09:23:23 AMThat is Dr. Sringari's guest house.
Dr. Sarin's guest house looks clean too, from Calic's and DEM's videos.
Cool that is the first one I have seen from Sringari. Is there any way to get a diary started from that guest house?
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