That is kind of the catch-22 of all of this.
We all have a huge debt to pay for those brave souls who came before us, underwent torture with old external devices (or poor internal devices), and allowed the field to become what it is today.
You see, that is the conundrum: those who risk the most with this surgery, are those with the most to gain. What do I mean?
By the time that (supposedly) technology/awareness of the surgery reaches a point to allow it to be done easily, it will lose much of what makes it so powerful for the essentially class of oligarchs (those with money) that benefit from it now.
AKA once it's cheap and easy, it won't be that big of a boost--because then everyone could just get it.
But I do wonder why that guy would go public like that. I saw the snapchat story you're referring to. And the YouTube video with victor. It just seems really, really weird to be that blaise about it and when push comes to shove this surgery is just weird and people who go public so easily seem not quite socially adapted...aka socially dumb. But maybe I'm just a hater.
Quote from: Activatedxx on January 26, 2021, 10:21:54 AM
Yeah, also by the next generation or two advancements will be crazy. Look how externals went to stryde. I find that crazy. That would be sci fi in the 80’s and 90’s. Limb lengthening will reach a point where in the next 50 years I think it will be 2/3 of the price and much much easier with new technology Advancement.
Unfortunately that won't be useful to any of us.
I think ultimately we will learn how to reopen growth plates to allow people to keep growing, and then close the growth plates as soon as the person reaches their desired height. That's the ultimate "limb lengthening". We're a century too early though
Quote from: MakeMeTallAF on January 27, 2021, 04:57:27 AMUnfortunately that won't be useful to any of us.
I think ultimately we will learn how to reopen growth plates to allow people to keep growing, and then close the growth plates as soon as the person reaches their desired height. That's the ultimate "limb lengthening". We're a century too early though
Growth plates don’t close, they fuse and are virtually non existent afterwards
Perhaps we can add a growth plate to the end of our bones then, and then have them fuse once they we've reached ideal height.
Or possibly find a way to un-fuse growth plates. There must be some cell signaling pathway to accomplish this.
Quote from: Activatedxx on January 24, 2021, 08:05:49 AM
I agree, how can you get repelled by artificial height and all these people with Fkd up teeth and fake boobs and nose jobs want to cover up their insecurities. Personally, if you get ll go for a slightly taller girl and hope for the best.
I don’t think people should be ashamed of LL and think of it as a repellent, half of these women have fkd teeth and get veneers or just cake make up on themselves until they get married and their husband sees them without make up
We are not ashamed of LL.
I am very proud of myself that I did LL and before so many years that almost all stories we heard were the freaking ones.
But what I feel about myself is irrelevant of what the average person would feel, especially women, if they learn that your height is fake.
And this has nothing to do with how hard LL is but because women think that tall men have better genes and thats why they prefer them for making chlildren.
Of course, all these are bs and thats why I will never tell to any woman that I did LL, because it really shoukdn't matter at all for them, but it does.
So, no LLer should be ashamed. We worth our heights much more than any natural born average-tall dude.
But society will never feel the same about us. Thats why I will keep it secret at all costs, something that merchant doctors and wannabe famous LL morons make it harder and harder though.
i agree. for instance, i never get sick whereas my friend 6'5 catches every flew. so yea talking about genes and height.
women are stupid and no high value man takes women too serious. you have to treat a woman like a child. they are not reasonable. for me, im pursuing my career and i see a woman as something that will complement me at some point in life to reach full social acceptance, because a sucessful man has to have a woman, right?
Quote from: Body Builder on January 27, 2021, 01:30:39 PMWe are not ashamed of LL.
I am very proud of myself that I did LL and before so many years that almost all stories we heard were the freaking ones.
But what I feel about myself is irrelevant of what the average person would feel, especially women, if they learn that your height is fake.
And this has nothing to do with how hard LL is but because women think that tall men have better genes and thats why they prefer them for making chlildren.
Of course, all these are bs and thats why I will never tell to any woman that I did LL, because it really shoukdn't matter at all for them, but it does.
So, no LLer should be ashamed. We worth our heights much more than any natural born average-tall dude.
But society will never feel the same about us. Thats why I will keep it secret at all costs, something that merchant doctors and wannabe famous LL morons make it harder and harder though.
This!
Quote from: Body Builder on January 27, 2021, 01:30:39 PMWe are not ashamed of LL.
I am very proud of myself that I did LL and before so many years that almost all stories we heard were the freaking ones.
But what I feel about myself is irrelevant of what the average person would feel, especially women, if they learn that your height is fake.
And this has nothing to do with how hard LL is but because women think that tall men have better genes and thats why they prefer them for making chlildren.
Of course, all these are bs and thats why I will never tell to any woman that I did LL, because it really shoukdn't matter at all for them, but it does.
So, no LLer should be ashamed. We worth our heights much more than any natural born average-tall dude.
But society will never feel the same about us. Thats why I will keep it secret at all costs, something that merchant doctors and wannabe famous LL morons make it harder and harder though.
BINGO.
Why is this so hard to understand for some people? Wanting to hide CLL and being "ashamed" of it are mutually exclusive. We don't live in a binary world, and thinking as such is foolish.
Bottom line: keep this as niche and secret as possible so that patients don't also have to deal with MORE b.s. after growing taller. And this guy on snapchat is doing just that--ruining it for the rest of us.
I don't agree, CLL will be accepted by society just like other cosmetic surgeries, maybe some people make fun of it, but this is just a way of saying "I'm jealous".
If I get a CLL surgery, I would be proud of it. 
Im not saying people should go public with this. Every body has a right to privacy. I understand most people speak very ill of this procedure. go and see dailymail comments. but I think it's unhealthy to not even disclose it to close family and especially your spouse. I know I would feel cheated if my spouse did leg length surgery and didnt tell me.
I understand every body's pain. Its very difficult to make people understand. Thats really why I want people in public life (doctors, celebrities and sport stars) to do this and show people it aint no big deal. Imagine a soccer player did this and ran a solo run dribbling past 4 players and scored a goal with those long legs? that would create a positive impression.
as for children, HGH Is not like candy. hormonal therapy is bound to have risks. sometimes I feel leg length surgery is safer than that LOL.
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