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Posted on Jul 12, 2017, 7:51 pm
#81

Quote from: doomsday on July 12, 2017, 07:41:36 PMstop misinforming people....

 With crutches I meant. And usually it's like that

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Posted on Jul 13, 2017, 6:19 am
#82

Is it? Can a former external tibia patient (better if Dr. Pili patient) confirm this?

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Posted on Jul 13, 2017, 10:03 pm
#83

Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 13, 2017, 06:19:14 AMIs it? Can a former external tibia patient (better if Dr. Pili patient) confirm this?
After Ilizarov surgery, you can walk after surgery, that is the only advantage external fixators have on Internal fixators, also the alignment.

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Posted on Jul 13, 2017, 10:49 pm
#84

Quote from: onemorefoot on July 13, 2017, 10:03:28 PMAfter Ilizarov surgery, you can walk after surgery, that is the only advantage external fixators have on Internal fixators, also the alignment.
Another LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...

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Posted on Jul 13, 2017, 11:00 pm
#85

Quote from: doomsday on July 13, 2017, 10:49:01 PMAnother LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...

I am talking from what I have seen in a very famous orthopedic center in Italy (not related to cosmetic LL). People here usually use a heavy bulky ilizarov frame made with carbon fibers which makes it very light but also very strong. Patients here are not only allowed but also forced to walk immidiatly after surgery.
  I am talking about pure ilizarov alone and I meant only crutches walker. What happens in third world countries, I have no idea.

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Posted on Jul 13, 2017, 11:06 pm
#86

It's obviously frame and doctor dependent, that's why I'm asking former tibia patients for their experience.

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on July 13, 2017, 11:00:04 PMI am talking from what I have seen in a very famous orthopedic center in Italy (not related to cosmetic LL). People here usually use a heavy bulky ilizarov frame made with carbon fibers which makes it very light but also very strong. Patients here are not only allowed but also forced to walk immidiatly after surgery.
  I am talking about pure ilizarov alone and I meant only crutches walker. What happens in third world countries, I have no idea.

Hey TIBIKE, which famous orthopedic center are you talking about?  Do you mean walking immediately after surgery with crutches and when can you walk normally? Tanti saluti if you are from the land of pizza, pasta e mozzarella.

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Posted on Jul 14, 2017, 12:00 am
#87

Quote from: doomsday on July 13, 2017, 10:49:01 PMAnother LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...
One more time you, pain, what the fu!! LON has to do with pure external fixation in terms of weight support? I told you And tell you one more time, if you go to cra??? Doc as yours, they have you in frames forever, every doc you ask Will tell you that you should walk with crutches with PURE external fixation, becuase It helps bone formation, if you didnt do It, that is not my problem, so shut Up your a!! and use better the forum.

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Posted on Jul 14, 2017, 3:17 am
#88

Quote from: onemorefoot on July 14, 2017, 12:00:20 AMOne more time you, pain, what the fu!! LON has to do with pure external fixation in terms of weight support? I told you And tell you one more time, if you go to cra??? Doc as yours, they have you in frames forever, every doc you ask Will tell you that you should walk with crutches with PURE external fixation, becuase It helps bone formation, if you didnt do It, that is not my problem, so shut Up your a!! and use better the forum.
First of all, boy, the question was about weight bearing after the initial surgery. You said immediately which is a horse shi t. 
Second, there is no such thing as "REAL ilizarov apparatus". The Ilizarov frame/technique is more of a concept of using struts, rods, rings etc. It is highly adjustable. TSF and Hexapod are different but the principle of lengthening is similar.

Then you're changing your narrative by talking about general weight bearing which is a totally different subject. LON was mentioned there as an example that sometimes you can't walk and it still uses ilizarov frame...

You're getting lost in your pure stupidity, and then you try change the subject to defend yourself.   

Yes, weight bearing is good for the callus, muscle etc  in general but there is more caveats to that and saying that someone can walk straight after the surgery because of Ilizarov frame is a total BS.

In summary over 1000 post of nothing. Also, that story about Italian clinic is hilarious, keep lying boy. 
 
PS. You don’t know   about my doctor or doctors so please STFU.

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Posted on Jul 14, 2017, 3:37 am
#89

Read Maurizio Catagni topic, " when Will I walk"? " "Immediately", I am not lying, every doc says that you can walk after the surgery with crutches. There are even vídeos, but I stop here, there is no sense in fighting about an universal truth.

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Posted on Aug 26, 2017, 6:54 am
#90

Quote from: theophilo on May 09, 2017, 02:32:03 PMcan we have some pics ?
Yeah,I was wondering why no one is asking X-rays,pics after surgery ecc.Everyone is able to write an essay like that

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