Quote from: jackson5 on January 25, 2021, 02:36:31 PMGood question, because it's very very difficult to know exactly what you have done.
1- All mark you putted on the device will fade out.
2- The cut in the bone on x-rays will fade out with time
3- Track strictly every turn of the screw but sometime screws will loosen and you don't know where they exactly were before
4- You height change in the same day so you must take your height before and after the wall process at the same hour in the day.
So if I went for the last option, I've gone from 168.5 cm to 175 cm so 6.5 cm but "I think" I have done 7 cm on left leg and 6 cm on the right.
At mean 6.5 cm one leg (left) needed ATL and the other seemed not but after doing ATL I'm very satisfied and sense to be free from inflexibility.
Hello my friend.
It is very soon to know the final results of your atl because your tendons are still healing but I really want to come and wtite us your honest opinion after at least 6 months post atl surgery and tell us if you feel your walking as stable and strong as before, if you can jump at least 30cn tall and if your balance is as before.
You did a percutaneous cut which lengthens achilles not much and of course, the less lengthening the better the results.
But I am really curious if you'll feel your legs the same as before. Personally, I felt really bad and although people couldn't see something very bad in my walking (except from I walked a little slower than normal) my sense of walking and the lack of tension were so bad that I almost lost my will to walk.
Of course I did atl with Z plasty and my moron doctor overlengthened my tendons a lot and thats why I had si major problems but I really believe that even small cuts makes the walking sensation different than before and harms athletic abilities much more than LL itself.
Anyway, all these are past for me as I shortened again my tendons and although my flexibility is really bad (every morning I wake up with 2-3cm equinus that subsides after walking), I feel so good that I really don't care about it, as my sensation of the ground and the tension is almost as before LL and this is more than enough for me.
I really hope you'll have flexibility and strong legs too after atl.
Please tell us your situation after 6-7 months, I am really curious and I hope the best for you, although I still believe anyone should avoid it, even if your results were good.
AT is veey delicate, there is no need to cut it if the flexibility after LL is not that good, after months of walking and stretching things will become better even without atl.
Anyway.
Keep strong !
On road for 10 cm closer to the sky with Dr. Ghassan Salameh and Dr. Schmidt
Quote from: Body Builder on January 25, 2021, 10:24:04 PMHello my friend.
It is very soon to know the final results of your atl because your tendons are still healing but I really want to come and wtite us your honest opinion after at least 6 months post atl surgery and tell us if you feel your walking as stable and strong as before, if you can jump at least 30cn tall and if your balance is as before.
You did a percutaneous cut which lengthens achilles not much and of course, the less lengthening the better the results.
But I am really curious if you'll feel your legs the same as before. Personally, I felt really bad and although people couldn't see something very bad in my walking (except from I walked a little slower than normal) my sense of walking and the lack of tension were so bad that I almost lost my will to walk.
Of course I did atl with Z plasty and my moron doctor overlengthened my tendons a lot and thats why I had si major problems but I really believe that even small cuts makes the walking sensation different than before and harms athletic abilities much more than LL itself.
Anyway, all these are past for me as I shortened again my tendons and although my flexibility is really bad (every morning I wake up with 2-3cm equinus that subsides after walking), I feel so good that I really don't care about it, as my sensation of the ground and the tension is almost as before LL and this is more than enough for me.
I really hope you'll have flexibility and strong legs too after atl.
Please tell us your situation after 6-7 months, I am really curious and I hope the best for you, although I still believe anyone should avoid it, even if your results were good.
AT is veey delicate, there is no need to cut it if the flexibility after LL is not that good, after months of walking and stretching things will become better even without atl.
Anyway.
Keep strong !
I am curious to know the answer to this as well! It seems that if small cuts ARE safe at all, then it is the easiest way to more legnthening.
But if it still causes so much issues as with your ATL, then we should rule it out entirely and you are the savior to the forums to tell us all this news. Truly we are indebted to your experience Bodybuilder and for you to take your time to share your experiences shows much character. Thank-you!
Quote from: Body Builder on January 25, 2021, 10:24:04 PMHello my friend.
It is very soon to know the final results of your atl because your tendons are still healing but I really want to come and wtite us your honest opinion after at least 6 months post atl surgery and tell us if you feel your walking as stable and strong as before, if you can jump at least 30cn tall and if your balance is as before.
You did a percutaneous cut which lengthens achilles not much and of course, the less lengthening the better the results.
But I am really curious if you'll feel your legs the same as before. Personally, I felt really bad and although people couldn't see something very bad in my walking (except from I walked a little slower than normal) my sense of walking and the lack of tension were so bad that I almost lost my will to walk.
Of course I did atl with Z plasty and my moron doctor overlengthened my tendons a lot and thats why I had si major problems but I really believe that even small cuts makes the walking sensation different than before and harms athletic abilities much more than LL itself.
Anyway, all these are past for me as I shortened again my tendons and although my flexibility is really bad (every morning I wake up with 2-3cm equinus that subsides after walking), I feel so good that I really don't care about it, as my sensation of the ground and the tension is almost as before LL and this is more than enough for me.
I really hope you'll have flexibility and strong legs too after atl.
Please tell us your situation after 6-7 months, I am really curious and I hope the best for you, although I still believe anyone should avoid it, even if your results were good.
AT is veey delicate, there is no need to cut it if the flexibility after LL is not that good, after months of walking and stretching things will become better even without atl.
Anyway.
Keep strong !
Hi Body Builder,
Sorry, I now come on this site less frequently. From your experience I told to Dr Salameh to be very careful to avoid the same problems as you had. Yes your warnings had been a big yellow flag for me, thank you. Now 8 months later, I know it has been a good choice to do it. Before I had hard time to go from knee down position to stand up with a bag of 10kg on my back due to flexibility issues. Now I no longer have this problem. Also before when I stay stand for 2 to 3 hours, I had this pain in my feet due to compression of them on the ground (ballerina feet) now I hardly have that pain and when I have it it's very very little. I even ask myself if perhaps I needed a slightly more ATL lengthening but it's fine I will not plan a new surgery for that. Also I could not stand "very" strait and be stable (not trying to fall back) now I can do that. Let me be factual.
Flexibility (my estimation) before LL: 90% I never can do the splits :-)
Flexibility after LL before "ATL" : 60%
Flexibility after "ATL": 80% I can do all a normal guy can do in a daily life or heavy sport
And just now Body Builder I have tested the jump, I can jump as high as half a meter (around 65 cm)
But something to tell you. I will ask the details to Dr Salameh but as he told me he did not cut my Achilles tendons, he cut a band I don't remember which one exactly now but I will ask. Perhaps this method is for small "ATL" lengthening only.
I also have a nerve which is recovering slowly for the left leg.
One question I'm still wondering: for the LL we do a lot of stretching, but when we get older, can the length gained by the muscles (soft tissues in general) shrink back. During the lock down as I don't walk much, I have the feeling that I'm loosing a little flexibility... it's good to a have a feedback from others specially the very old LLiers.
Best regards
Jackson5
Hello friends,
I had Dr Salameh and he told me the details. He made a recession through multiple very small holes in gastrocnemus muscle. So the muscle can grow naturally. Perhaps this is why I have all the strength in my legs.
For the pricing, as of today he gave me that for you:
25 000 euros including the Surgery, follow up, physiotherapy, X-ray and bandages. The website you can read more information:
http://www.lengthening-sldf.com
I think he has designed a new version of the fixator (Salamehfix) which is more compact. The link to the videos of someone who did 8 cm and can run with the device.
Limb lengthening with Salamehfix 1, Dr. Salameh fixator Running during consolidation period:
Limb lengthening 8 cm with Salamehfix 1 ; Dr. Salameh Fixator Running during consolidation:
Limb lengthening with Salamehfix 1 , Dr. Salameh fixator, exercises during consolidation:
Limb lengthening Cosmetic 10 cm Salamehfix 1; Dr. Salameh Fixator walking ability:
Limb lengthening Cosmetic Salamehfix surgery exercises with Dr. Ghassan Salameh:
Have a nice day.
Jackson 5
The frames look very convenient to wear. Why do they not have worldwide acceptance? Do they permit this device in Germany?
Quote from: Want-3-inches on June 07, 2021, 08:11:43 AMThe frames look very convenient to wear. Why do they not have worldwide acceptance? Do they permit this device in Germany?
Ilizarov frames have faster healing and consolidation time, also they can fix deformities. Monorails and frames like that are more comfortable but the actual healing time of the bone is somewhat slower, and I’m not sure about their ability to fix deformities
Quote from: Activatedxx on June 07, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
Ilizarov frames have faster healing and consolidation time, also they can fix deformities. Monorails and frames like that are more comfortable but the actual healing time of the bone is somewhat slower, and I’m not sure about their ability to fix deformities
The doctor claims it can be used for deformity correction and also he does not insert a nail like they do for monorails (before or after lengthening). If the rest of the world has not started using it then there must be something it's lacking in.
Quote from: Want-3-inches on June 07, 2021, 08:11:43 AMThe frames look very convenient to wear. Why do they not have worldwide acceptance? Do they permit this device in Germany?
Yes I have done my LL in Germany
Dear all,
One new video from Dr Salameh and the link to the patent for the device:
Global Patent EP 1830724 A1:
https://data.epo.org/gpi/EP1830724A1-EXTERNAL-FIXATION-DEVICE-FOR-TREATMENT-OF-FRACTURES-LIMB-LENGTHENING-AND-CORRECTION-OF-AXIAL-DEVIATIONS-SALAMEHFIX-1
.Limb lengthening 10 cm : Cosmetic Surgery Salamehfix Fixator, Dr. Salameh:
Patents are granted to any new invention. It does not show how one system compares with another. What we need to see are peer reviewed papers.
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