paley institute's costs. is it way more than written?

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Quote from: fokid on May 29, 2018, 05:28:33 PMon the website they quote $95,000 for femur surgery with stryde. i estimate a complication free procedure and 3 month stay in florida to cost a total of $125,000 if i am not really frugal.

So you think it costs $30,000 to stay in Florida for 3 months if you are not really frugal and have a complication free procedure. Break down your expenses to show everyone how you came up with that amount. This should be interesting.

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$7k for hotel
$2k for medications
$5k for international flight (including a business class return flight back because you are in pain)
$2k for food and supplements
$1k for transportation
$7k for a care taker for a month ($240 a day. one month isn't necessary for everyone, but might be for some)

that is $24k, but i left some space for miscellaneous expenses. it most probably will not be more than $20k for most. i was just being conservative.

anyway, we digress. my point of this thread was to think about how much complications might cost and whether we should just believe dr paley's 'keep $30k extra for complications' advice.

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Why in God's name would you...

1. Spend $7k for a hotel instead of just renting a short stay apartment or a cheap Airbnb for less than $1,000 per month and Uber it to physical therapy.

2. Spend $2k on medication. You don't take blood thinners with Stryde except for the first month, the rest can be handled with a bottle of Tylenol.

3. Spend $5k for an international flight, don't know where you are coming from but round trip coach from anywhere in the world wouldn't be more than $1,200 into Miami. Business class is totally unnecessary.

4. Spend $7k for a caretaker with Stryde. Waste of money.


If 96% of patients don't develop complications that require additional surgery, then 96 out of every 100 patients will spend no more than $100K. You over estimated your likely expenses by $55,000.

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Quote from: Oh So Arrogant on May 30, 2018, 12:40:39 PMWhy in God's name would you...

1. Spend $7k for a hotel instead of just renting a short stay apartment or a cheap Airbnb for less than $1,000 per month and Uber it to physical therapy.

2. Spend $2k on medication. You don't take blood thinners with Stryde except for the first month, the rest can be handled with a bottle of Tylenol.

3. Spend $5k for an international flight, don't know where you are coming from but round trip coach from anywhere in the world wouldn't be more than $1,200 into Miami. Business class is totally unnecessary.

4. Spend $7k for a caretaker with Stryde. Waste of money.


If 96% of patients don't develop complications that require additional surgery, then 96 out of every 100 patients will spend no more than $100K. You over estimated your likely expenses by $55,000.

ok thanks for your input. please refrain from participating in the thread. i am hoping to hear from paley's patients or people who are seriously considering him.

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You did just hear from someone who is seriously considering Dr. Paley. You heard from me, and i'm telling you that your budget estimate is $55,000 over any realistic expenses. I then broke it down for you as to why your expense estimates are outrageous. Try to learn something.

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do i have to explain to you how 4% is high odds? if you disagree then we have little value in interacting. you come off as an optimistic person who believes everything will go alright and i am not like that. i wish you good luck in saving your $100k, getting stryde with dr paley and achieving your goals.

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Quote from: fokid on May 30, 2018, 01:35:06 PMdo i have to explain to you how 4% is high odds?

Yes, I can't wait to hear this. Mathematicians will have to rewrite all the worlds textbooks if you can do it.

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Quote from: fokid on May 30, 2018, 01:35:06 PMdo i have to explain to you how 4% is high odds? if you disagree then we have little value in interacting. you come off as an optimistic person who believes everything will go alright and i am not like that. i wish you good luck in saving your $100k, getting stryde with dr paley and achieving your goals.

1/22 is high odds? Wtf ha. Your estimates seem way too high.

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Better to be over-prepared than not, this isn't a surgery you want to go through if you have just enough money for the procedure and not much else.

That being said, I wouldn't categorize 4% as a high rate of complication. Conversely I wouldn't say that 96% is a poor success rate.

Don't forget nail removal, which is much more of a certainty:

QuoteThe cost of removal is separate and is not included in the cost estimate. The cost of removal is $17,500 for two femurs and $22,500 for two tibias, and $27,500 for simultaneous bilateral femur and tibia removal.

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Quote from: Android on May 30, 2018, 09:09:05 PMBetter to be over-prepared than not, this isn't a surgery you want to go through if you have just enough money for the procedure and not much else.

Absolutely. It's just OP's estimates are in the wrong places, like $5k on business can seats is pretty insane if you are tight on money.