/r/short bashing a 5'6 guy for getting LL

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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on January 22, 2017, 11:54:40 AMCheck this out: https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/5kvb18/you_could_have_done_something_about_your_height/

This guy (post was deleted) literally told people they deserve to be treated badly for their height because they didn't "optimize their growth" during their puberty. He says his height is the result of an "investment" because he slept well, exercised and had a good nutrition during his puberty years. So ridiculous. Not only does he stroke his own ego because of his height, he also made himself believe that he got it because of his own accomplishments. How insecure do you have to be to post something like that?

Ye because it was my fault that i got hormonal problems and destroyed thyroid.

Dont read that crap, they are mostly trolls from /r/tall.

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This guy is wrong anyway, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.. This is an interesting article. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/

As a guy who f***ed up in his teen years by doing drugs, not eating properly, not doing exercise, and whatever else, it comforts me that I'll probably still beat my maximum growth potential anyway if I do LL

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Quote from: Jack1066 on January 22, 2017, 01:02:05 PMThis guy is wrong anyway, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.. This is an interesting article. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/

As a guy who f***ed up in his teen years by doing drugs, not eating properly, not doing exercise, and whatever else, it comforts me that I'll probably still beat my maximum growth potential anyway if I do LL

If you want to put this article into context, it means that if you were supposed to be let's say 180, if you did everything wrong in regards to lifestyle, and therefore lose the 20% of height you were supposed to have, you will end up 176.4cm tall. Which also means that nutrition and sleep accounts for less than 4cm in more people. Of course I am not including hormonal problems like Myspaceboyfriend's case

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Yeah. It's kinda confusing and I've never been good at maths but I did the sums and worked out I should probably be an inch and a bit taller than I am now, a bit over 176 cm if I lost that 20%. that makes sense because my dad is 5'8 like me but most of the other guys in my family are around 5'10 to 6'0, so 5'9 seems like a compromise height

I think when I was a small kid a doctor said if it continued normally it could be anything from 5'8 to 6'1, but I have a feeling the 6'1 was very unlikely, and he put me around the 40th percentile for my age or something at that time. It was my mid to later teens that I really missed out on, for sure, I was a literal zombie haha.

I think there are plenty of other variables too, like if you do more exercise as a teenager or are less stressed or depressed or whatever, but I guess the returns get smaller and smaller. So long as you eat right and get enough sleep I guess it's unlikely to miss something close to your full potential.

Sorry about your hormone problems, Garrus, that really sucks.

BTW, will you be getting Andromeda? :-) I pre-ordered it...

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Quote from: Jack1066 on January 22, 2017, 01:59:01 PMYeah. It's kinda confusing and I've never been good at maths but I did the sums and worked out I should probably be an inch and a bit taller than I am now, a bit over 176 cm if I lost that 20%. that makes sense because my dad is 5'8 like me but most of the other guys in my family are around 5'10 to 6'0, so 5'9 seems like a compromise height

I think when I was a small kid a doctor said if it continued normally it could be anything from 5'8 to 6'1, but I have a feeling the 6'1 was very unlikely, and he put me around the 40th percentile for my age or something at that time. It was my mid to later teens that I really missed out on, for sure, I was a literal zombie haha.

I think there are plenty of other variables too, like if you do more exercise as a teenager or are less stressed or depressed or whatever, but I guess the returns get smaller and smaller. So long as you eat right and get enough sleep I guess it's unlikely to miss something close to your full potential.

Sorry about your hormone problems, Garrus, that really sucks.

BTW, will you be getting Andromeda? :-) I pre-ordered it...

Just now I saw I was wrong... 20% of 180 is 36. Anyway, no one loses height due to nutrition nor lacking sleep or stress.. Atleast not in a major way.. When my height neurosis was really bad I have seen that the max height loss due to enviroment is like a max of 10cm (and 10cm is not the norm.. Usually around 5cm). Non of us who had no hormonal problems who ended up in the 5'6-5'8 range was supposed to be 6' or above. A guy in my class in high school and middle school never smoked and was the best athlete.. He also ended up 5'7 or maybe 5'8. It's all genetic no matter what we try to say.

 I didnt pre order andromeda.. Once the ME saga was over I was happy. I liked the story with the reapers and everything. Too bad that in the end the reapers real origins and motives were nothing like Sovereign or ME2 harbinger meant

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Both /r/short and /r/tall are full of  . Avoid them, seriously. And someone please tell that guy to come here if he's not with us already.

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Quote from: Jack1066 on January 22, 2017, 01:59:01 PMI think when I was a small kid a doctor said if it continued normally it could be anything from 5'8 to 6'1, but I have a feeling the 6'1 was very unlikely, and he put me around the 40th percentile for my age or something at that time. It was my mid to later teens that I really missed out on, for sure, I was a literal zombie haha.

I had prediction range of 5'9 to even 6'7(cuz my uncles) and i was mostly in the 70 percentage so ye, that's how predictions are accurate lol.

Quote from: Jack1066 on January 22, 2017, 01:59:01 PMSorry about your hormone problems, Garrus, that really sucks.

BTW, will you be getting Andromeda? :-) I pre-ordered it...

Thanks and no, i'm not going to preorder any games right now(with the exception of CDP Red). Honestly all games this year that i waited for ended up average at best.
Oh and i don't have PC to run it for now.

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 22, 2017, 02:06:11 PMJust now I saw I was wrong... 20% of 180 is 36. Anyway, no one loses height due to nutrition nor lacking sleep or stress.. Atleast not in a major way.. When my height neurosis was really bad I have seen that the max height loss due to enviroment is like a max of 10cm (and 10cm is not the norm.. Usually around 5cm). Non of us who had no hormonal problems who ended up in the 5'6-5'8 range was supposed to be 6' or above. A guy in my class in high school and middle school never smoked and was the best athlete.. He also ended up 5'7 or maybe 5'8. It's all genetic no matter what we try to say.

Honestly tallest friends i had were the people that smoked and drinked everyday. Height is almost purely genetic.

Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 22, 2017, 02:06:11 PMI didnt pre order andromeda.. Once the ME saga was over I was happy. I liked the story with the reapers and everything. Too bad that in the end the reapers real origins and motives were nothing like Sovereign or ME2 harbinger meant

Whole trilogy was rushed af(thx EA). They didn't even need to change the galaxy if bioware writers wouldn't have such a big ego.

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I really wanted a confrontation (oral one) with harbinger or atleast with the reapers (Rannoch was bull ).. Even the God child itself was a slap to everything we were told in ME 1 and 2 regarding the reapers... They should have been left as godlike machines with motives unknown to us...

 The Levaiathan DLC was also just a way to cover for the stupid conclusion to the reapers origins and goals. Evil godlike machines who uses organics to reproduce just because they can was a far better backstory regarding the reapers' goals

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I loved the old trilogy but it was a pity they got rid of the old scriptwriter for me3. They were supposed to go in a much more interesting direction with the reapers than the hackneyed synthetics vs organics thing.

Andromeda has the old writer back though. I have quite/cautious high hopes for it actually.

Yeah I got what you meant though. I did the sums and worked out I should be about 2.8 cm below the average height if I reached a full projected height which would put me at the lower end of 5'9, or around the 40-45th percentile, which makes a lot of sense. As I said, I have a feeling 6'1 was supposed to be much less likely than a shorter height, given the height of my father, I think the doctor said something to my mother to that effect from what I can remember.

If genes matter as much as you say, it really doesn't explain why the average male height was a couple of inches shorter in the 1950s than it is now, even if we are plateauing now. I think a combination of other factors are important too.

I agree that the single most important thing is genes though, and I'm not saying I have clinically stunted growth, just that I possibly (who can say?) missed my full potential by an inch or so. But yeah, not by a really noticeable or life-impacting amount for sure.

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I see your point about predictions though. I probably shouldn't bother. For some reason all my life I assumed I'd be 5'8 like my dad anyway.