It's not just the women either. In fact, having a lot else going for you (as long as you're not extremely short) will help you with women more than getting respect from other men. A taller man will still think of you as a potential easy victim if he wanted you to be. The apes are out of the jungle but the jungle isn't out of the apes. The biggest gorilla gets the most respect.
Stop thinking of your ex...she isn't thinking about you.
The advent of social media and the internet exacerbates many issues those with short stature may face. Negative emotions that you may feel are definitely caused in part by factors outside your control. However, everyone here should keep in mind that modern technology has destroyed everyday interactions that were commonplace just a few decades ago. These were interactions that helped everyone find their niche communities where they could fit in. Trying to find a community like this today seems increasingly hard to do if not impossible. In a world where humans are getting taller on average, data shows that feelings of loneliness and social isolation are increasing. In other words, even the person who is 190 cm in height feels lonelier than his counterpart would have been in the 90s. Add on a short stature to this example and it's almost like a death sentence. Socializing with others is fundamental to human nature and it would explain why some would feel suicidal due to their height.
For those wondering if limb lengthening is socially acceptable, it absolutely is. Beauty has transformed from being a subjective and uncontrollable attribute into a commodity similar to consumer goods. For example, you can get any sized breasts you want, a specific facial construction, apply makeup, etc. The unfortunate reality is that being unique is shunned and the new norm is an egalitarian beauty. So the problem is a byproduct of modern technology and it's not up to the few of us to change that. I for one would like to live the best life I can and if limb lengthening can change that for anyone, I say go for it.
One more point: if you think that limb lengthening is being dishonest about your genetics, I highly recommend that you watch a few makeup tutorial videos. The females transform themselves from way below average to 10/10 in some cases.
Quote from: nofear26 on July 07, 2023, 02:17:21 AMThe advent of social media and the internet exacerbates many issues those with short stature may face. Negative emotions that you may feel are definitely caused in part by factors outside your control. However, everyone here should keep in mind that modern technology has destroyed everyday interactions that were commonplace just a few decades ago. These were interactions that helped everyone find their niche communities where they could fit in. Trying to find a community like this today seems increasingly hard to do if not impossible. In a world where humans are getting taller on average, data shows that feelings of loneliness and social isolation are increasing. In other words, even the person who is 190 cm in height feels lonelier than his counterpart would have been in the 90s. Add on a short stature to this example and it's almost like a death sentence. Socializing with others is fundamental to human nature and it would explain why some would feel suicidal due to their height.
For those wondering if limb lengthening is socially acceptable, it absolutely is. Beauty has transformed from being a subjective and uncontrollable attribute into a commodity similar to consumer goods. For example, you can get any sized breasts you want, a specific facial construction, apply makeup, etc. The unfortunate reality is that being unique is shunned and the new norm is an egalitarian beauty. So the problem is a byproduct of modern technology and it's not up to the few of us to change that. I for one would like to live the best life I can and if limb lengthening can change that for anyone, I say go for it.
One more point: if you think that limb lengthening is being dishonest about your genetics, I highly recommend that you watch a few makeup tutorial videos. The females transform themselves from way below average to 10/10 in some cases.
Make-up is also dishonest and extremely fraudulent if you date and marry someone without showing them your true face even once. No one would really do that. It's impossible to defraud someone by using excessive make-up ALL the time before marriage. A real comparison to LL would be getting major facial reconstructive surgery (jaw, nose, eye lids and what not). If someone did that and hid it from their partner, that would certainly be fraudulent to the same extent as LL.
The thing you said about "egalitarian beauty" does not apply to height. Height is simply too spread out. It's considered medically normal to be anywhere from 5'2 to 6'6 for man. Even if all the short ones did LL and got their three inches, the new normal will be 5'7 to 6'6. This is still a huge range. So it's impossible to create egalitarian beauty from LL.
Facial surgeries on the other hand might create "egalitarian beauty" if the face is malleable enough and if you can pretty much transform any face into any face (or close enough). But that is not possible with height via LL.
Lastly, no one is debating whether LL is useful or not. Assuming you recover well, it's a no brainer that it will help in every department of life. But the topic of this thread is how fraudulent it is, to hide it from a partner in the future. I feel concerned that many people want to do this and hide it. I would personally never do that.
Quote from: truthdial on July 07, 2023, 05:31:48 AMLastly, no one is debating whether LL is useful or not. Assuming you recover well, it's a no brainer that it will help in every department of life. But the topic of this thread is how fraudulent it is, to hide it from a partner in the future. I feel concerned that many people want to do this and hide it. I would personally never do that.
Then tell your wife-to-be then. If they'd truly love you, they would care about you undergoing such a surgery, help you thru it and support you, or be against it because they care. You have to think first, why are you doing this surgery in the first place? If it's to get women, then that's already a red flag. Since you're already after someone who most likely superficially only likes men for their appearance and height. And yes, a lot of men who plan to do CLL will do this as a reason most likely especially if they're under 5'5, but unlike you they most likely already have steeled themselves to hide that from their spouse.
I'm not gonna go in the topic that altruistic lying actually helps relationships, that's a whole another topic. In anycase, different people have different reasons for undergoing CLL. You got to ask yourself first, what is yours? Is it to get women? Stopped getting undermined by other men? Career? Confidence? Etc. Because at the end of the day, you have to weigh in also your personal happiness to the mental struggle of your height dysphoria and deal with it all your life.
What a stupid thing to say lol girls are fake from head to toe hair color makeup fake boobs bbls etc lol i personally just want 5cm cuz i want to do modeling and with 
i can’t do runway and also my parents are taller than me so if anyone would be shocked by my height difference with my parents it’s rn not after the surgery 😂
Everyone is intitled to have their own personal secrets! You (and you only) can decide if and when you should share it with your significant other. if they really love you,care about you and heve appreciated your qualities, it shouldn't be a problem.
If you tell anybody about doing limb lengthening, it should be your wife. Strangers, acquaintances, or even friends do not need to know.
Plenty of women lie or try to hide the work they've done. Rhinoplastys and fillers are common, yet so few are willing to be honest about it. I would definitely want to know my wife's medical history, and because of that, I'd tell her mine. I figure it's fair that way. I don't think it'd be right for me to ask hers, while hiding my own. Plus, how else am I going to explain to her that we need to put our sons on HGH? Lol.
I definitely don't recommend you tell a girl until you're serious with her, and by that I mean you're going to propose. It could even be a test of her character, to make sure that she's the right one to marry.
Quote from: NailedLegs on July 07, 2023, 08:01:31 PMIf you tell anybody about doing limb lengthening, it should be your wife. Strangers, acquaintances, or even friends do not need to know.
Plenty of women lie or try to hide the work they've done. Rhinoplastys and fillers are common, yet so few are willing to be honest about it. I would definitely want to know my wife's medical history, and because of that, I'd tell her mine. I figure it's fair that way. I don't think it'd be right for me to ask hers, while hiding my own. Plus, how else am I going to explain to her that we need to put our sons on HGH? Lol.
I definitely don't recommend you tell a girl until you're serious with her, and by that I mean you're going to propose. It could even be a test of her character, to make sure that she's the right one to marry.
good take!
The one thing that almost all people do is lying. Did you seriously think people are honest about everything? Men lie about their height, income, life and women lie about plastic surgeries they've had, their age, their weight, their everything. You don't have to be honest to everyone because they most likely are not honest with you. Don't care about people. If you found a good woman to marry, then tell her and that is the only person who needs to know.
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