Quote from: ilovescience on February 20, 2022, 01:35:57 AM160 is not that short in South America!?
It depends on the country, but I'm currently living in the US because I'm working for a big tech company. Everyone here is at least 170 cm
Quote from: southamericanrocker on February 20, 2022, 01:33:00 AMI'm exactly 160cm and not afraid about sharing my height lol. I feel a lot of people here are mostly passive users (like me). I've lived all my life being the shortest guy wherever I go, so I got used to it but it's still being an annoying feeling. I know is hard for most people that has the same height than me, and I've even found myself lying about my height on dating apps because girls are kind of strict about their height preferences. That's why I don't like dating apps and prefer to meet people in person by going to dance clubs or bars. I guess for the moment all I can do is to compensate my height with my personality and getting bigger at the gym.
I could afford to get the surgery done now, since I'm a Software Engineer in a big tech company, but the problem is that I will end up spending most of my savings if I do it now. I learnt to live with this and to be patient, because I think that isn't a smart financial decision to get surgery done if I can't afford it without getting hit hard on my financial situation. I'm saving most of my income so I can invest my money in real estate, and get the surgery done when I'm 30 (I'm on my mid 20's right now).
But even after Option 5 you will be still just 176cm which is just on aveage of all ethnics of the U.S and if you are white you will be still shorter than the average height by 2cm and that sucks a lot IMO. So I think either you give up doing this surgery or accept you will be still short even after LL. I am not deliberately knocking you and instead I am having great empathy from you. But anyway the situations of course will get way better after LL.
Quote from: PursuerOfHeight on February 20, 2022, 01:47:28 AMBut even after Option 5 you will be still just 176cm which is just on aveage of all ethnics of the U.S and if you are white you will be still shorter than the average height by 2cm and that sucks a lot IMO. So I think either you give up doing this surgery or accept you will be still short even after LL. I am not deliberately knocking you and instead I am having great empathy from you. But anyway the situations of course will get way better after LL.
I don't think it sucks, because you can compensate it in other ways bro. I would absolutely prefer being a shredded 176 cm Latino than being a skinny 180 cm white guy. Nobody will ever, ever care or even notice those 2 cm to be average you mentioned, beside yourself.
Quote from: ilovescience on February 20, 2022, 12:51:24 AM50分60分？
其是指身高方面嗎？
恩，打个比方就是，考50分和60分有本质区别一个及格了，但都是差不多的水平
Quote from: southamericanrocker on February 20, 2022, 02:45:14 AMI don't think it sucks, because you can compensate it in other ways bro. I would absolutely prefer being a shredded 176 cm Latino than being a skinny 180 cm white guy. Nobody will ever, ever care or even notice those 2 cm to be average you mentioned, beside yourself.
If you have to handicap someone in a hypothetical scenario to compete you have already lost.
Quote from: Chinese Actor on February 19, 2022, 03:25:45 PM50分和60分有本质区别，又可以没有本质区别，其实最主要的还是手术安全性，我不赞成做太多，如果我165我会选择5+5的双断方案
Do you use Google translate on this site or can you read English but reply in Chinese?
Quote from: Highest on February 20, 2022, 09:19:31 AMIf you have to handicap someone in a hypothetical scenario to compete you have already lost.
I'm not sure if I understood well. You mean we all should be the maximum taller possible to able to "win" in any "competing scenario"??
Is this a forum for humans who NEED (and not only for those who legitimatelly want) CLL, by all medical parameters, or are we here in a documentary from David Attenborough about survival of hienas against other beasts in the jungle?
Be free to say whstever you want but try to be reasonable and bring positive contribution. Educate yourself about what means living in HUMAN society instead of being a paradoxical contributor to heightism discrimination right here !!!. I very rarely was badly treated for being short. In high school for example, in fact even the other kids respected me because I integrated, played good soccer, helped them in class, etc. Would you say that everybody shorter than 176 cm (170? 174? I don't know your height) are doomed to tragedy? If this is so, and without being the mod, I would say that, since you don't minimally respect all your "real" short or just shorter fellows here, specially those more clinically, psyhologically and sociological in more urgent need of LL ( if I was around 4 cm shorter, being otherwise healthy or not, I would have surgery paid by the National health system), then you'd have no place here in my opinion, sorry. You're not respecting diversity. If you're within one standard deviation from average height with no other clinical or life story argument, I could more legitimatelly call you a fool than you call me anything else (I'm well below 2 standard deviations). Your mind is totally alienated from what empathy means, you don't know the fundamentals of ethics in medicine, and you're immature and deeply unsensible. You (maybe not aware of it) insult shorther people as crippled, handicaped, lost for life.
If I understood well.
Quote from: Chinese Actor on February 20, 2022, 08:52:09 AM恩，打个比方就是，考50分和60分有本质区别一个及格了，但都是差不多的水平
是的，但是如果175是60分的话，160肯定远不如50分的
Quote from: zaozari on February 20, 2022, 01:15:36 PMI'm not sure if I understood well. You mean we all should be the maximum taller possible to able to "win" in any "competing scenario"??
Is this a forum for humans who NEED (and not only for those who legitimatelly want) CLL, by all medical parameters, or are we here in a documentary from David Attenborough about survival of hienas against other beasts in the jungle?
Be free to say whstever you want but try to be reasonable and bring positive contribution. Educate yourself about what means living in HUMAN society instead of being a paradoxical contributor to heightism discrimination right here !!!. I very rarely was badly treated for being short. In high school for example, in fact even the other kids respected me because I integrated, played good soccer, helped them in class, etc. Would you say that everybody shorter than 176 cm (170? 174? I don't know your height) are doomed to tragedy? If this is so, and without being the mod, I would say that, since you don't minimally respect all your "real" short or just shorter fellows here, specially those more clinically, psyhologically and sociological in more urgent need of LL ( if I was around 4 cm shorter, being otherwise healthy or not, I would have surgery paid by the National health system), then you'd have no place here in my opinion, sorry. You're not respecting diversity. If you're within one standard deviation from average height with no other clinical or life story argument, I could more legitimatelly call you a fool than you call me anything else (I'm well below 2 standard deviations). Your mind is totally alienated from what empathy means, you don't know the fundamentals of ethics in medicine, and you're immature and deeply unsensible. You (maybe not aware of it) insult shorther people as crippled, handicaped, lost for life.
If I understood well.
I think you are too overeactting to what he said.
I think his point is, it reveals your subconscious senses of inferior if you are comparing 2 individuals in a hypothetical scenario cuz you already realized that you could never beat the one down that you thought as a loser as opposed to that 'winner' one. in reality. And if you are 'projecting'(a psychological terminology) yourself into the 'winner' that just means what I am elaborating. But yeah I think he is at the meantime overthinking about it. Everyone has the freedom to think of things in different way so maybe he thinks 176cm can never win 180cm even though the former has athletic build and other advantages simply cuz the latter is taller than the former which I am also agreeing on cuz height is an attribute that has its ceiling even though changing with LL and if not with LL it will be just an inflexible attribute and that is also why short males are always the most desperate cohort comparatively speaking of all of the other cohorts including ugly males(but yeah I gotta say plasticsurgery doesn't have magic power that can change your face always as you want admittedly), poor males, not to mention comparing with females.
Just embrace the fact that life is extremely unfair and always creating absurd and devastating blockages into human's life
I understand your point but I think I was self explanatory also. Let me tell you two curious facts.
The first (I repeat it here sometimes) is that the average height of one of the top military elite forces, the Navy Seals, is ‘’only’’ 5''8'.
The other is a story of mine, when, my forum fellow friend (no irony), I think I JUST *UCK UP YOUR THEORY that:
''If you have to handicap someone in a hypothetical scenario to compete you have already lost''.
I had just withdrawn money from the ATM machine, by night, and when I still hadn't put money in the pocket an entire gang of tall white adolescents literally jumped over me, I fell down on the floor and hold the money tight in my hand; there were already maybe two guys’ weight over my body while maybe 4 or 5 other grabbing me by the legs and rest of the body.
They desperately tried to grab the money. Suddenly I kicked one guy with my foot like a horse, with desperate adrenaline’s brute force and I projected him well around a meter away and still remember the astonishing faces of some. I continued to hold the money as tight as I could while 2 or 3 just tried to open my hand! Finally someone appeared down the street that could see the scene, they finally left….
Yupp: a 5''00 (152cm) guy sometimes can win over a gang of 5''7' guys.
But this story is not about sometimes short people being able to do brave or do hard things (that I already very well know): it’s that short guys tend to have many of what sometimes in biology is called ''red muscle'', which predominantly works with oxygen. Very tall guys have generally less red muscle and have massive ''white muscle'', which works like a missile but during a much shorter period of time (of course to a certain extent you can train and develop both, but with anatomical and physiological limitations.
You see the short guys winning marathons sometimes (sometimes also much taller usually black guys that have a very specific train since childhood and physical constitution). On the other hand, you have the 100m sprinters like Bolt, who run all the 100 m without consuming one single molecule of oxygen but would never run a marathon with a decent time.
So, to sum up, what I want to say here is that if there was not heightism and height neurosis, short people could ''compensate'' with many things, and be as happy or as ''normal'' as others. They tend also for example to have less aortic and articulation's diseases, apparently (although there are other negative biological issues, also) .
I could save the money probably only because: 1) the gang was taken by surprise by my strenght and quick reaction (they jumped first to the money, not my body, and that surely seemed easy to do, and 2) I could hold it tightly beyond a certain time window, when my red aerobic muscle started to balance and to win over their white anaerobic muscle.
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