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The problem with roids is that the estrogen increase from testoerone can stunt the growth.
It is true that Testosterone will increase height and other steroids like anavar (DHT), but you would have to have normal or low estrogen levels to keep bones from "aging."

yeah i think clavicles are developed through GH, IGF-1, and Test/DHT. So you are right, GH is probably the safest and easiest growth method

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Quote from: shottrue on February 17, 2019, 10:42:02 PMThe problem with roids is that the estrogen increase from testoerone can stunt the growth.
It is true that Testosterone will increase height and other steroids like anavar (DHT), but you would have to have normal or low estrogen levels to keep bones from "aging."

yeah i think clavicles are developed through GH, IGF-1, and Test/DHT. So you are right, GH is probably the safest and easiest growth method

So if i take testosterone 500mg week and some anavar too i could grow more but epifyseal plates would close faster? What if i keep my estrogen low with drugs like letrozole, arimidex etc while on test+anavar, would i grow faster and still keep normal epifyseal closure speed?

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Yeah, from what I remember it should be entirely estrogen that closes plates. You're gonna need high dose K2 Vit D and magnesium as the test will increase your bodies need.
Also look into proviron, may be unnessary with anavar but it increases fertility and blocks estrogen from binding i think.
BBuilders used to use proviron before AIs

You could also consider peptides like hexarelin or CJC no dac, I'm looking into it, but perhaps the best growth is HGH + peptides that raise your natural GH

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Quote from: shottrue on February 17, 2019, 10:42:02 PMThe problem with roids is that the estrogen increase from testoerone can stunt the growth.
It is true that Testosterone will increase height and other steroids like anavar (DHT), but you would have to have normal or low estrogen levels to keep bones from "aging."

yeah i think clavicles are developed through GH, IGF-1, and Test/DHT. So you are right, GH is probably the safest and easiest growth method

Testosterone will increaase height? That's the first time I heard that.