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Posted on May 5, 2018, 10:39 am
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Quote from: Great321 on May 04, 2018, 08:59:47 PM I did book an appointment for next month (6th of June). (Is a consultation actually required for a surgery?)
Whoever wants me to ask Dr. Giotikas some question just let me know. And are there questions I should ask him definetly to test his reliability? My flight was about 100€, there was even one for 50€. To avoid the high prices I should do the surgery after August, maybe even October? What do you suggest?


I wouldn't know if it is required, but unless the clinic is far far away, I would definitely would want to  have a consultation myself before final operation.. so I say, the 100e is well spent..

About waiting until Oct... If you have time waiting, try and figure out when/if they are going to use Presice 3... If it is a truly gamechanger, then waiting a year is maybe worthwhile..

How much does the consultation cost and what does it include?

ps: I just read in another post that you are only 20!?... whatever your schedule is for the next years (university?) I would absolutely wait until a better procedure comes to market. You have plenty of time to override your genetics(wink). Doing LL at a young age has many advantages, but if something goes wrong you also have a long(er) time time to live with the consequences. I truly believe that next couple of years we will see a revolution in CLL, both technique- and pricewise..

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Posted on May 6, 2018, 7:59 am
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@myloginacct: Thanks for the link! I have almost watched the entire video and I noticed that either it was a coincidence or Dr. Giotikas quoted Dr. Paley when he said that it wouldn't be a fair trade to loose function for lengthening by doing ATL (in one of the mails).



@Honore: I have read on their website that one face to face appointment is required before surgery. I will ask him about Precise 3 next month. I sent an email yesterday about the cost and what I can expect. They'll probably answer tomorrow and I'll post it here.

I'm studying already and I'll take a year off. There is a risk but I also know that if I won't do it now I'll be unhappy whenever I go out and others talk about my height like one time when I was 18, the owner of the bar wanted to see my   ID, he looked in surprise and said loudly that because I am so small he thought I was 14 (I think he wasn't happy with himself either, because confident people don't treat others like that) . That was pretty humiliating since everyone else could hear him.

 I hate waiting in front of a club with my friends because one time I felt good at that day, confident but the bouncer just looked at me from distance instead of looking at my ID he said that he won't allow me to go inside. Only after some time he looked at it and I could go in. After that my confidence was gone again. That was embarrassing. And there are plenty more stories, especially when you're young you want to go out a lot but I avoid these situations because of incidents like that.

I agree some people just look young even when they are taller. My friends at least say I look my age..and whenever I meet new people I feel they respect me and think (I was told that, too) I'm very smart because of how I talk and behave. Another time noone asked me for ID, instead other people were asked, although they were a lot taller. Which assures me that it's not necessary my face. And concerning girls, I wouldn't want to date someone who rejects a guy only because of his height anyways. I did have girlfriends or some who were interested in me. One was even taller but I just didn't feel good about me being smaller, I didn't want her to feel uncomfortable some day

Also I'll start with 5cm which I believe is safer. Later it'll be weird to just grow 10cm suddenly. Now I can pretend that I just grew later...

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Posted on May 6, 2018, 8:05 am
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Quote from: Great321 on May 02, 2018, 06:50:41 AM
instead of doing cross lateral I prefer doing tibia or femur first and then later the other segment because I don't want to overcharge my body. You never know how this affects your mind.
 


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Posted on May 7, 2018, 11:31 am
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Here is my latest e-mail exchange with Dr. Giotikas staff:

I have booked an consultation appointment for next month at the Mediterraneo Hospital.
German doctors who also do cosmetic limb lengthening besides limb reconstruction offered me to run the consultation fee via my electronic health insurance Card. Do you know if that would also be possible in Greece? How much does it cost? Is there anything I should bring with me?

We are looking forward to welcoming you to Athens for your Consultation on 6/6/2018 at 11.00 AM at Mediterraneo Hospital. Nearer the time we will send you detailed instructions about how to get to the hospital.
When you say "electronic health insurance Card" do you mean "European health insurance Card" or something else? Could you please clarify?


Can I ask what the difference is between the „Free Introductory Online Consultation“ and the „Appointment in Mediterraneo Hospital-Athens“ besides the time difference? Do you also do cosmetic limb lengthening surgery also only after a free online consultation or is a consultation in Greece required? What can I expect? Can I book a surgery date after the consultation?

The consultation lasts approximately one hour and costs 120 euro. The preoperative planning of the surgery requires a CT scanogram which costs 160 euro. The ct scanogram amount is included in our cosmetic limb lengthening package and will be deducted from you later package payment, should you decide to have your operation with us. If you have already done x-rays or CT scanograms please bring them along as they may be helpful.
"Free Introductory Online Consultation" aims to help patients speak directly to  Dr Dimitrios Giotikas, ask questions about their condition and better understand the way we provide care at Athens BJR. "Appointment in Mediterraneo Hospital-Athens" is a medical consultation which includes thorough interviewing about patient's current problems, presenting symptoms, medical history; clinical examination (including assessment of body proportions in CLL cases); review of x-rays scans or other tests; discussion of treatment options with explanation of surgical technique, rehabilitation, advantages, disadvantages, potential risks and expected outcome; answering to patient's questions and concerns. Finally, if a surgery is to be planned, informed consent of the patient is obtained. We would never perform any therapeutic procedure (including CLL) based only on an "introductory" consultation.
You can definitely book a surgery date immediately after your consultation. Next available surgery dates are: 5 and 6 July 2018.
We remain at your disposal for any further information and assistance.

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Posted on May 7, 2018, 12:30 pm
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Thanks a lot for sharing. Every time they give a professional/sound answer... my number 1 choice IF the medical part match the way they responding to emails... But how to judge?

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Posted on May 7, 2018, 1:55 pm
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Is the CT scan standard procedure before LL? That's a large amount of radiation. I like avoiding CT scans.

Quote from: Honore on May 07, 2018, 12:30:50 PMThanks a lot for sharing. Every time they give a professional/sound answer... my number 1 choice IF the medical part match the way they responding to emails... But how to judge?


Give Solomin and Birkholtz a little research too, imo. But I do hope things turn out perfectly with any you choose.

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Posted on May 7, 2018, 10:17 pm
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@ Honore: You're welcome! Is my plan possible? Please give me an advice  I hope so!

@myloginacct: I don't about that.

I asked them if they could run the consultation via my health insurance card (which German doctors do) but I guess it's different when you seek the same treatment in other european countries with your european health insurance card:

We regret to inform you that your consultation fee cannot be paid via EHIC (European Health Insurance Card). The intention of EHIC scheme is to allow people to continue their stay in a EU country without having to return home for medical care; as such, it does not cover people who have visited a country for the purpose of obtaining medical care. Usage of EHIC for purposes other than the above constitutes unethical abuse which we do not do.
We remain at your disposal for any further information and assistance.

It's a good sign that they didn't offer me unethical ways to solve this problem Is my plan possible? Please give me an advice

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