Wow, you felt the need to make 3 posts about it? I'm flattered.
Let me ask you instead: does an Oncologist need to have cancer to talk about it?
The Ilizarov apparatus has been in use since the 50s.
Distraction osteogenesis first gained worldwide fame when it was used to treat Valeriy Brumel, an Olympic high champion. He broke his tibia in a motorcycle accident, and had 20 unsuccessful operations trying to repair his non-union. Dr. Gavriil Ilizarov used distraction osteogenesis and successfully healed his non-union, and here we are.
We have literal hundreds, very likely thousands of medical papers published by academia all around the world regarding distraction osteogenesis. If you're not lazy, you can do research and look all of them up on your own - learning about the methods (including ones not really used anymore, like the Wagner method), the risks, the consequences and complications involved with it.
I deeply respect LL vets for all they went through and hold their opinions in higher regard than othxr forum members, but it is absolutely a fallacy to imply you cannot discuss a subject simply because you have not personally experienced or demonstrated it - granted you did study what you are talking about. Theoretical physics would not be respected as a field if that mentality was applied to it.
Also, if that's how you really think, I do feel bad for you. Haven't you undergone LL? No CLL doctors have ever undergone distraction osteogenesis themselves. Too bad you couldn't be operated and treated by a fellow forum member.
I'm also in no way claiming I have anything remotely comparable to the expertise of a medical doctor, before you attack that strawman too. I'm simply refuting your uncalled attacks on my posting. This is a free forum; people will post and discuss as they wish. Obviously, anything medically related that you do read online should be taken with a huge grain of salt. This is common sense.
I do believe there should be a block feature if you don't want to read any of my posts. Other than that, I don't know what else to say to your rants.
What is the minimum increase in height for it to be noticeable to normal people?
Quote from: th on June 03, 2018, 06:15:28 AMyou don't know what it is like to work solid for two years - to book a flight to a foreign country, stay a couple of days in a hotel while you attend a clinic for tests, to shave your legs the morning of surgery, to sign a disclaimer before the anaesthetist slips a huge needle into your spine to numb and disable your legs so you cannot even feel whether you can lift them or not, to try to stay calm while you hear drilling and hammer noises around your legs and see blood spurting, to lie there for three hours thinking 'well this is it...' to put ALL your faith in a doctor who barely know, to be wheeled back to your bed with tightly-sprung cages gripping your tibias, to be unable to barely move with pain and discomfort for the first few days, to think while you're attempting to move cm by cm to the toilet 'what have I done?' , to feel and see progress after a while that you are finally resolving a height issue that impacted on a person's life for twenty years, twenty years of attempting to battle and hide a condition that makes living a reasonable, purposeful, fruitful life impossible, to run away from the good things in life, girlfriends, career, jobs, family etc because it is impossible to enjoy the intimacy of life when you cannot stand in your socks with others present, to camoflauge the condition with substance abuse, to know you have 'something' wrong with you but have to keep it secret
By the way, you also don't know shxt about my life. Those LL pains were all pains you chose to go through in your life - to get taller.
yet more false analogies - cancer, physicists etc - does not involve volunarilty breaking your bones - you now seem to be presenting your lack of knowledge as a virtue! (i'm only an internet poster, what do i know?)
anyone can have a view on ll but that is what it is - a misinformed view
you are not qualified to chastise someone who has been there and done it - you are unable to refute factual arguments and presented evidence and so atempt ad-hominen attacks, irrelevant criticism and name calling etc 'i feel bad for you' - it is irrelevant how you feel about me - this is a LL forum not a dating site 
i met so many people who simply talked about this but never went through with it - there is a limit to what anyone can say if they have not experienced LL...
Quote from: th on June 03, 2018, 11:23:50 AManyone can have a view on ll but that is what it is - a misinformed view
Have you done LL? If not, you know exactly as much about it as anyone else who hasn't gone through LL according to your logic, so what sense does it even make for you to talk about it? Yeah, it involves "voluntarily breaking your bones", but after all, you haven't done it, so your view must be a "misinformed view" ?
What do you make of the people who have done LL and say it was a good decision to do it?
i don't think you are following this thread exchange - of course i have done LL - my previous posts would confirm this - i think i have posted seven times over four years (please check)...
i am more than happy with my decision and the results...
i have posted today in the hope that someone may get some identification with what i have written...
stupid question
wanna be taller - i thought mrlogin was bad!!... 
What are the hell are you talking about?
Quote from: myloginacc on June 02, 2018, 01:45:14 PM
So many here act like this is a nosejob and not a bunch of procedures full of risks. Being taller than the shortest members here is a luxury that affords you the advantage of being able to lengthen less... for your own health on the long term, and proportions in the short term.
You’ve lost me here what do you mean they can lengthen less surly if they lengthen then either way they’ll still be going through a risky procedure
Quote from: Racurz on June 03, 2018, 08:42:45 PMYou’ve lost me here what do you mean they can lengthen less surly if they lengthen then either way they’ll still be going through a risky procedure
Yeah but for someone taller they have to lengthen less than a smaller person needs to lengthen for the same goal.
if you lengthen less it is obviously less risky. That's what I think he's trying to say
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