I wanted to hear from other members on this.
Mainly these two questions:
I think it really depends on where you're at in your life. If you're happily married with kids or have things that keep you busy, height will take a back seat.
But once things calm down it might hit you like a bolt of lightning; for instance, you overhear a coworker point out how short you are. The average wiser person will brush it off and move on, but we're a bit difference since we know about procedures that could "fix" that problem. That's the seed of the "what if" question; the source of regret that if we don't do CLL, we won't live as our best selves.
In any case, I think the benefits of height will drop in our 50s. We're still quite conscious about our bodies in our 40s, people are divorcing and remarrying in these decades. As we age, many start to seek companionship more than just physical intimacy, especially if still single. By the time you're in your 60s, I think it's a case of diminishing returns.
Here's a quote from a 2003 article:
QuoteThe vast majority of patients are job- and spouse-hunters in their 20s, but teenagers are also among the patients and the oldest person to have the operation was a 52-year-old woman. "She was very wealthy and had everything else she wanted, so she decided to fix her height which had always been a concern for her," explained one of the staff.
As for physical eligibility for CLL, I'd also peg it somewhere starting in the 50s. Your ability to heal and recover drops significantly around this decade. I have family members going through non-cosmetic surgeries, and recovery is a long, grueling process for them.
Good point about remarrying in your 40s. That's the best argument I've seen yet for still getting CLL later in life. You certainly don't need LL for it, but it could help.
I don't think I'll be able to do LL before much later in life, at which point I was wondering if I'd even really get anything out of it other than not having to deal with height neurosis anymore (but at the cost of developing everyday pains and the money, it might not be worth it). You benefit the most by being taller when you're younger rather than older.
I don't agree that there is any maximum age where the benefits of 'LL are low enough, it depends on the individual. What if you had been depressed with your height after 50 years and had this weight on you all your life and had the chance to correct it? Wouldn't it be more worth it as you had achieved all your other dreams and could dedicate yourself to removing this last obstacle to your happiness? Older people also have no need to prove themselves athletically or need to feel as they have to win a street fight (whatever the hell that may mean) so they can accept the loss of athletic ability more readily.
As for remarrying at 40s a key benefit of 'LL, lol.
A man of 20 cannot know what a man of 50 knows, but a man of 50 knows how a man of 20 thinks...
And who says that non-union is more common with increasing age? The medical literature shows there is no correlation with age and even some studies show that it is worse with younger people. Please check your facts before commenting
I understand if you skimmed my comment Antonio, I tend to write a lot.
I literally quoted a woman in her 50s who got CLL precisely because it was the one thing she was lacking, like you mentioned. I also made sure to say that the benefits of height starts to drop in your 50s, never mentioned that it's outright useless. Like I said, it's a case of diminishing returns; more impact the earlier you do it, and for longer (obviously).
Never said "key benefit" anywhere. It was more of a point that people are actively redefining their relationships even as we get older. That being said, divorce rate does start to ramp up around that age.
Quote from: Android on January 08, 2018, 06:01:49 PMI understand if you skimmed my comment Antonio, I tend to write a lot.
I literally quoted a woman in her 50s who got CLL precisely because it was the one thing she was lacking, like you mentioned. I also made sure to say that the benefits of height starts to drop in your 50s, never mentioned that it's outright useless. Like I said, it's a case of diminishing returns; more impact the earlier you do it, and for longer (obviously).
Never said "key benefit" anywhere. It was more of a point that people are actively redefining their relationships even as we get older. That being said, divorce rate does start to ramp up around that age.
And my point is that it depends on the individual, not age, for the returns, diminishing or not. 'LL can be a throw of the dice and certain tradeoffs will have to be made. According to this site, maybe 20% of people have serious complications beyond 3 years, and maybe 5% regret they did it. So how would a young person feel if he got serious complications and had to spend 20 years of his life and 250k to fix them? Would you say then he spent those years wisely vs.concentrating on his other paths such as school, study, career, sports etc first and gaining maturity before rolling the dice? Don't forget that impacts can be negative as well as positive...
You may not have used the words key benefit, but I quote you,
Good point about remarrying in your 40s. That's the best argument I've seen yet for still getting CLL later in life.
So you agree that remarrying in your 40s is a good reason to still get 'll.
Potato, patata
Don't take this personally, I like your comments a lot. Especially the one about BB's BDD (or lack of). (Seriously, perhaps a mild form of it? 
My response was more to the OP rather than you.
Of course, it all comes down to the individual. We're all different, I think we can all agree on that. That being said, some generalizations can be made since while we're unique, we're often similar as well, and there will always be outliers.
I'm not suggesting that younger is better either, like you said there are important things like education. The financial burden is also a much bigger one while establishing a career.
I didn't say that by the way, you're quoting the wrong person. I will add that it's only one of the many reasons an older person might consider CLL, since as you're well aware many younger people want it for the same reason: to be desirable. As we age and have a stable relationship, I feel that the main driving force will switch over to wanting respect.
Here's an anecdote. My mom, around 149 cm (4'11"), has told me that she used to wish being a few centimeters taller, and her drive was to resemble my grandmother. My grandmother was taller and considered "glamorous," while my mom with her shorter stature was limited to "cute." She's comfortable with her own body now, especially now that she moved back to her home country which has a lower average height. This experience is also the reason why she supports my decision to do CLL in the future.
No offense taken Antonio, just trying to clear up my intended message. I pretty much like what everyone has to say on this forum aside from the impersonators and trolls.
Quote from: Antonio on January 08, 2018, 05:38:55 PM
As for remarrying at 40s a key benefit of 'LL, lol.
I didn't say it was a "key benefit". If you're happily married and already older in age, chances are you'll not care that much about doing LL. You benefit almost nothing from it (while risking a lot) unless it cures your height neurosis, but I don't think older, married men have height neurosis in the same intensity as younger people in these forums. Most will probably just think "it sucks being short" and move on. However, marriages can break, and obviously not being short makes it easier to find someone else by then. The breakup itself could possibly also make your height neurosis flare up again, so having gotten LL could help prevent that too. To get LL or not is a personal choice, and it could be as you said:
QuoteWouldn't it be more worth it as you had achieved all your other dreams and could dedicate yourself to removing this last obstacle to your happiness? Older people also have no need to prove themselves athletically or need to feel as they have to win a street fight (whatever the hell that may mean) so they can accept the loss of athletic ability more readily.
I'm not trying to judge anyone here. Everyone does whatever they want with their lives. However, I'm trying to look at the benefits vs cons of going through such an extreme procedure later in life.
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