Why does it seem like all the hot women have clammed up?

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Quote from: meursault on March 21, 2015, 10:04:20 PMThere are more than enough unattractive, nerdy engineers that are desperate, ignorant, or just plain bad in general with women to mop up for them after a 'well used' low inhibitions party lifestyle youth. I've seen it happen time after time after time and it's heartbreaking knowing these guys think they 'lucked out' and 'won out' over the studs she was with in her youth because she 'chose' him. Or maybe they're so delusional and think their girl was a little angel. Either way a despicable kind of situation, when these women look at these guys as walking wallets that they never would have considered for sex- but now appealing as a money well now that they've been broken in by hotter, more attractive and desirable males for one night stands and what have you.

Interesting that you mentioned engineers.

When I was in university there was this girl (she was in the dorm room exactly above mine) that I used as a 'semen toilet' as you put it. I mostly fked her when I was in between relationships. A few times when I went to her room to fool around another guy came out of room, it was hilarious. Also there was 1 time after we fooled around that she mentioned about a guy that was taking her on a date later that evening and I just thought of that guy as a total loser (he's taking a girl on a date that literally just got destroyed a few hours before).

All the guys that fell for her were engineers, including that loser that dated her. I checked her on FB and she's engaged to this nerdy engineer (albeit tall) who probably has no idea that she's been with at least (at least!) 50 guys. She's only 27 but is no where near as hot as she was when she was 19-21, but the guy writes messages about he lucked out and crap.

Although I'm a mechanical engineer myself (I say I'm a consultant socially) I can say that it's always the engineers that get the sloppy seconds.

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I once dated a girl for several years that I look back on now as an "undercover slut." I don't want to divulge too many details...but she put on this front of being this perfect, "good girl" persona. She dressed very conservatively, but since she was hot, she still got checked out everywhere we went. Looking back on things (with the rose-tinted glasses removed), she was definitely an undercover slut.

Women are definitely not like our mothers and grandmothers anymore. That's for damn sure. Makes me very weary of long-term relationships.

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Quote from: w1988 on March 23, 2015, 03:53:09 PMInteresting that you mentioned engineers.

When I was in university there was this girl (she was in the dorm room exactly above mine) that I used as a 'semen toilet' as you put it. I mostly fked her when I was in between relationships. A few times when I went to her room to fool around another guy came out of room, it was hilarious. Also there was 1 time after we fooled around that she mentioned about a guy that was taking her on a date later that evening and I just thought of that guy as a total loser (he's taking a girl on a date that literally just got destroyed a few hours before).

All the guys that fell for her were engineers, including that loser that dated her. I checked her on FB and she's engaged to this nerdy engineer (albeit tall) who probably has no idea that she's been with at least (at least!) 50 guys. She's only 27 but is no where near as hot as she was when she was 19-21, but the guy writes messages about he lucked out and crap.

Although I'm a mechanical engineer myself (I say I'm a consultant socially) I can say that it's always the engineers that get the sloppy seconds.

To be honest, I find women like that pretty hot. I'd be in a relationship with a girl like that, because you know she'd be a demon in bed.

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Quote from: ReadRothbard on March 23, 2015, 09:29:38 PMTo be honest, I find women like that pretty hot. I'd be in a relationship with a girl like that, because you know she'd be a demon in bed.

Yeah but then you'd get your heartbroken.

Very, very hard to find an attractive woman who is always kind and loyal (and not an undercover slut).

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Quote from: YellowSpike on March 23, 2015, 09:33:49 PMYeah but then you'd get your heartbroken.

Very, very hard to find an attractive woman who is always kind and loyal (and not an undercover slut).

Quote from: YellowSpike on March 23, 2015, 09:33:49 PMYeah but then you'd get your heartbroken.

Very, very hard to find an attractive woman who is always kind and loyal (and not an undercover slut).

YellowSpike it's easy, there are great attractive women everywhere. I've never been worried about not finding a great girl, I never get all this good girls are hard to find BS. I watched a documentary/news video that I can't remember the name of but it showed briefly how it's actually the media that makes matchmaking seem impossible and that in reality your ideal person is usually only a block away.

Quote from: ReadRothbard on March 23, 2015, 09:29:38 PMTo be honest, I find women like that pretty hot. I'd be in a relationship with a girl like that, because you know she'd be a demon in bed.

She was, actually to this day she's the only girl that gave me BJ's as if her life depended on it (all mouth, hands holding the back of my non-CLL legs).

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Quote from: w1988 on March 23, 2015, 09:48:43 PMYellowSpike it's easy, there are great attractive women everywhere. I've never been worried about not finding a great girl, I never get all this good girls are hard to find BS. I watched a documentary/news video that I can't remember the name of but it showed briefly how it's actually the media that makes matchmaking seem impossible and that in reality your ideal person is usually only a block away.

I think you and I both have a good amount of dating/women experience. I'm a few years older, so maybe I've seen more (?). I've had several gfs, and many fwbs. It's not that I'm worried about finding a great girl, so much that I'm weary of getting into a LTR with woman without really knowing her first (may sound obvious, but it really isn't). To me, women are quite more complex then men. This is why we established in another convo that it's best for men to remain somewhat mysterious, as that's somewhat of a component of attraction for women (which isn't as straightforward as men, who really only care about looks and personality).

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Am I the only one here who doesn't believe in relationships? Nobody is loyal these days, women are becoming sluts and they only care about money. I'm not saying guys are any better. Unfortunately in this world you cannot trust anyone and "true love" is extremely rare, almost non-existent. At least that's what I believe.

So meh, women come and go. That's all I have to say...

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Quote from: sadboy on March 23, 2015, 10:09:41 PMAm I the only one here who doesn't believe in relationships? Nobody is loyal these days, women are becoming sluts and they only care about money. I'm not saying guys are any better. Unfortunately in this world you cannot trust anyone and "true love" is extremely rare, almost non-existent. At least that's what I believe.

So meh, women come and go. That's all I have to say...

Not all women are the same, but it's very hard to find an attractive, genuinely kind and loyal woman. Attractive women KNOW they're attractive (society has a way of telling us who's attractive and who isn't), and they develop egos and a sense of entitlement. Though I guess the same can be true for men who are tall and good looking and know they can get anyone. Cuts both ways.

When it comes to true love, I don't think women are quite as loyal as men on average. In many relationships I have seen, the woman is the one to call it off (after seemingly being in love with the guy for a very long time). Happened to me and several of my good buddies, and we were all model bfs (though not perfect, of course). As long as a woman doesn't completely let herself go (like becoming obese) or turn into a nasty b*tch overnight, the guy is willing to hang in there and try to work things out at least.  Many women don't know what they want, and just go from guy to guy until they're used up. Which is why I go for women (as far as LTRs) in their late 20s and up, because they generally have less drama and know more what they want. I would never seriously date a young woman in her 20s because if she's attractive, she's going to want to maximize and use her looks in her youth while she has them.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on March 23, 2015, 10:21:21 PM
Not all women are the same, but it's very hard to find an attractive, genuinely kind and loyal woman. Attractive women KNOW they're attractive (society has a way of telling us who's attractive and who isn't), and they develop egos and a sense of entitlement. Though I guess the same can be true for men who are tall and good looking and know they can get anyone. Cuts both ways.

When it comes to true love, I don't think women are quite as loyal as men on average. In many relationships I have seen, the woman is the one to call it off (after seemingly being in love with the guy for a very long time). Happened to me and several of my good buddies, and we were all model bfs (though not perfect, of course). As long as a woman doesn't completely let herself go (like becoming obese) or turn into a nasty b*tch overnight, the guy is willing to hang in there and try to work things out at least.  Many women don't know what they want, and just go from guy to guy until they're used up. Which is why I go for women (as far as LTRs) in their late 20s and up, because they generally have less drama and know more what they want. I would never seriously date a young woman in her 20s because if she's attractive, she's going to want to maximize and use her looks in her youth while she has them.

I believe though that a relationship could work if both people WANT to make it work. Most people are afraid to be dedicated to someone and others leave when a difficulty or a problem pops up. That is very selfish if you ask me. The divorce rate is very high these days. It's not like how it used to be. Things changed. Also I read that gay couples are happier and have less divorce rates than straight couples. Maybe they understand each other better...

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Women are harder to please then men. I can't speak for all men, but for me, as long as I'm physically attracted to the woman (and she's around my "level" of attractiveness, as bad that as that may sound), she has a career (don't care what she does or how much money she makes, so long as not a stripper/prostitute), and she's got my family values and is a nice person, she's a contender. I agree, though, it does take two to make a relationship work. Over the long-term, that's very hard, though. I know from experience. I haven't totally given up on getting married, I'm just very weary about it.