I just watched a video posted by Iamready and while I apologize to him beforehand as I don't mean to associate him with my line of thinking, it's inspired me to write this.
Coming from a very tall family, I always felt that the primary reason I wanted to do this surgery was because I was cheated out of my true height somehow. Sure, I had all the feelings of inadequacy/not being a 'real' man and so forth, but I think now that it's all done and over with, I'm being a little more honest with myself.
It was all for women.
If women viewed a 5'2 man the same way as they did one who was 6'2, would I have really cared that other men were taller than me?
If height was not a factor with women, would taller men be viewed as more capable/powerful in society (given the modern age)?
I've been asking myself a line of similar questions and no matter what the immediate answer/response I have (and would have insisted on prior to surgery) the line of rationale eventually funnels down to women.
To be clear, I am not blaming women, that's absurd. I am merely saying that no matter if you're going into this at 5'7, 5'2, or even 6'0, your ultimate goal is to appear more attractive to women, your woman, or at least a society that, perhaps inadvertently, correlates a man's 'worth' with his ability to attract women.
For the last few days I've been walking around as a 5'9/5'10 man, as opposed to my old 5'7. Even in the completely platonic encounters I've had with them(women) so far, there is most definitely something different in how they interact with me. This too I believe is an extension of how attractive they find me, even if at a subconscious level.
Again, I did not go through with this to 'bag more ladies', nor is that my intention going forward. However, it's hard to maintain that a desire for women, or at least their desire for me, was not the true reason I went through with this.
At the end of the day, is it all for women?
The answer to your topic is yes
Yes.i believe you said it all!!
For the vast majority, probably and I believe this is a dangerous line of thought, while of course there is a benefit to being taller, especially when one is considered short it would be foolish to believe, as many appear to do that limb lengthening is the solution to every problem they have in life which all stems back to height neurosis being to blame for everything negative. Suddenly they'll lengthen and their life will be perfect, women, money, respect etc. but this isn't reality and this mindset isn't one that's conducive to solving height neurosis because that person will always think 'It must be my height, if I was x inches taller' even at 6 feet. I think going into the procedure with a realistic mindset of what it can and can't do is paramount and doing such a serious procedure for other people doesn't show a healthy mentality. This is why some top surgeons require the patient pass a psych evaluation.
But I wouldn't say that this is the motivation for everyone, some people are fundamentally dissatisfied with their height which they believe can only be solved through limb lengthening but are doing it for them and have a realistic expectation of what impact it will have which I personally believe is a much healthier mindset and motivation because they are doing it for themselves and nobody else, any interest that comes is just a bonus - I'm sure there are plenty considering it who are married, have children and want to be treated with respect by co-workers, have always disliked their height, feeling emasculated, wish to be more proportional, would feel more confident etc. so to the topic subject, for some yes, for others, no.
in all honesty - it has to do a little bit with women for me, however it's that I want to strive to be the best I can (hence my name) and I just hate being very short at 164cms. I did have a relation for about a year with an 8/10 5ft5 girl but we split due to seperate issues, Ive never considered this operation to appeal to more women that's just a side bonus. It stems from just wanting for once in my life to be average and feel like I fit in somewhere as I never have and it effects my decision that I take in life and it eats into my confidence even though my peers regard me as confident and laid back. It's a different type of confidence that it effects if anyone understands - I'm confident in doing things etc but in in reality I'm not confident in the outcome of what I do being good enough?
Quote from: 682 on February 26, 2017, 12:24:32 PMFor the vast majority, probably and I believe this is a dangerous line of thought, while of course there is a benefit to being taller, especially when one is considered short it would be foolish to believe, as many appear to do that limb lengthening is the solution to every problem they have in life which all stems back to height neurosis being to blame for everything negative. Suddenly they'll lengthen and their life will be perfect, women, money, respect etc. but this isn't reality and this mindset isn't one that's conducive to solving height neurosis because that person will always think 'It must be my height, if I was x inches taller' even at 6 feet. I think going into the procedure with a realistic mindset of what it can and can't do is paramount and doing such a serious procedure for other people doesn't show a healthy mentality. This is why some top surgeons require the patient pass a psych evaluation.
But I wouldn't say that this is the motivation for everyone, some people are fundamentally dissatisfied with their height which they believe can only be solved through limb lengthening but are doing it for them and have a realistic expectation of what impact it will have which I personally believe is a much healthier mindset and motivation because they are doing it for themselves and nobody else, any interest that comes is just a bonus - I'm sure there are plenty considering it who are married, have children and want to be treated with respect by co-workers, have always disliked their height, feeling emasculated, wish to be more proportional, would feel more confident etc. so to the topic subject, for some yes, for others, no.
M8 I get so tired of hearing ppl like you use this argument 
I am 5'4
I am treated like a kid in the real world by adults and women
I would bet my life savings on there being a major difference in being completely invisible and unviable to women to at least slightly below average.
"fundemental dissatisfaction from their height". That term is so vague and stupid (sorry). Dissatisfied with what exactly? There's need to be a reason to be dissastified with something... Most probably because it makes women less interested in you.. Some people are so ego invested that they just can't admit that and start talking with vague terms with no meanings
Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 27, 2017, 07:20:20 PMM8 I get so tired of hearing ppl like you use this argument
Which argument specifically? That limb lengthening won't be the magic life changing experience to end any and all woes and problems in your life and make you a complete and utter Casanova and that to go in with unrealistic expectations of what the procedure will achieve is dangerous and ignorant? I still stand by this.
QuoteI am 5'4
I am treated like a kid in the real world by adults and women
I would bet my life savings on there being a major difference in being completely invisible and unviable to women to at least slightly below average.
Maybe if you had read my post properly and its entirety, I never said otherwise. In fact, I stated 'of course there is a benefit to being taller, especially when one is considered short'. There's a substantial and tangible benefit to lengthening, including the public perception towards that person. I never said otherwise. What I did say is that going through this solely to attract women, going to these utter extremes and believing you will be fighting them off the second you finish lengthening, then reality hits and many people will believe 'if I was 6 feet... etc.' is a dangerous line of thought and that many people do it for themselves, not for potential sxxual partners are they are happily married etc. If you wish to discuss this further I would be happy to, but please address what I have said instead of something I haven't.
I wasn't adressing you in person but rather what many people usually say. I didn't go into specifics because the list of reasons people come up with is as long and the time the Jews spent in the diaspora.
Edit: for some reason I thought you were talking to me.... I need more coffee it seems
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on February 27, 2017, 07:44:17 PM"fundemental dissatisfaction from their height". That term is so vague and stupid (sorry). Dissatisfied with what exactly? There's need to be a reason to be dissastified with something... Most probably because it makes women less interested in you.. Some people are so ego invested that they just can't admit that and start talking with vague terms with no meanings
There are many other motivations to undergo the excruciating, dangerous and debilitating procedure of limb lengthening than that of seeking sxxual validation from potential partners (though I admit this possibly may be the most common), I don't believe the phrase is 'vague and stupid' at all and is highly accurate to many people both here and in the world around us. If I may seek clarification, you're saying that somebody can't be dissatisfied with an aspect of their physical body if it's not solely to please or attract a sxxual partner? If so, I don't believe there is any point in discussing this further as we completely disagree on this point.
For example, if a man is overweight, marries and is completely content with his partner and has no intention of seeking a relationship with anybody else then decides to lose weight, stating he's fundamentally dissatisfied with being overweight and how the world/friends/coworkers perceive and treat him or how he perceives and feels about himself, are you saying that he is lying and his true motivation to lose weight can only ever be to sxxually attract someone else rather than being dissatisfied and wanting to change to feel positive about himself? Clearly that's ridiculous. Now swap his fundamental dissatisfaction with being overweight to having a big nose, acne, a balding head or his height - can he not wish to change it for himself and to address his own dissatisfaction?
There are a multitude of reasons of wanting to do so and if we are speaking in terms of being 'ego invested' as you say, surely there is no greater negative self worth, including going to the extreme lengths of undergoing this procedure solely for validation of self worth through having sxxual relations. Many people love to feel attractive to the a prospective partner but their self worth and love should primarily come from being satisfied with themselves, not other people. I hope this has clarified my position, you are welcome to disagree and I completely respect and understand your stance on the matter as it is applicable to many considering the procedure, just not everyone!
QuoteI wasn't adressing you in person but rather what many people usually say. I didn't go into specifics because the list of reasons people come up with is as long and the time the Jews spent in the diaspora.
Edit: for some reason I thought you were talking to me.... I need more coffee it seems
No problem my man.
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