So far I'm only seeing good experiences. The nail seems to be working well. I'm 42 years old and I'm thinking of having it done in January with Dr Becker. But these diaries give me hope that everything will go well.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 29, 2024, 09:26:48 PMI have an experience of more than 20 years in LL and I'vre read diaries and speak with hundreds of LLers, except from the fact I am a veteran myself.
Everything I wrote is true, many LLers weere ruined because the albizia lengthened on its own, also many had non union or very late consolidation due to this cr*p that needs to rebreak each time the bone to lengthen.
A full weight bearing magnetic nail will not be equal to betzbone but like comparing a new car with a wagon. But still some doctors like Becker and Guichet will use it because they can earn much more money by using a cheap obsolete nail compared to a new one and still charge the same.
Precise 2 is a much better nail although not weight bearing and most LLers lengthen 7-8cm, not 5 as you said, uding it.. Stryde or Max are so much better that there can't be even a comparison.
No offense but maybe things have changed in the last 20 years…. The academia is clear that early mobilization is key for the recovery and this is something what you only get with a weight bearing nail and gets even more important for longer lengthening amounts. It is also clear that a clean robust nail like the Betzbone has less risk for technical issues like the precise. I don’t say that this is likely but it can happen. It is true accidental clicks can happen but depend very much how good the nail sits in your bone. If the surgeon has done a good job you will not suffer from that much. On the other hand the betzbone is always strong and you can be sure that your lengthening amount is exactly how much clicks you have done. A magnetic nail can loose power if the resistance is getting to strong.
Therefore there are objectively more pros than cons for the betzbone. This might change when other weight bearing nails are coming out but so far the facts are very clear for me.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 29, 2024, 03:10:22 PMBecause the lengthening procedure is barbaric and painful, they don't reverse and they are prone to accidental lengthening. Also they take longer for the bone to heal.
Even though they are full weight bearing they are no much forna good magnetic nail like precise 2.
If we have again a magnetic nail with full weight bearing capabilities then betzbone and all these albizia cr*ps will cease to exist.
In what world is accidental lengthening a disadvantage? This surgery is designed to gain as much length as possible.
https://fb.watch/uhzkdpp3xX/
"Since it’s release, we’ve implanted over 50 PRECICE Max nails with outstanding results—zero complications and all patients achieving full weight-bearing and lengthening."
Precise max has been 100% succeed so far. They are trying to produce more nails. At this point, I dont see any reason to choose any other nail especially in US. Probably available in Europe next year.
Quote from: heightiseverything on August 30, 2024, 01:29:39 PMIn what world is accidental lengthening a disadvantage? This surgery is designed to gain as much length as possible.
Are you stupid or you really ask why accidental (which means that you can exceed the normal lengthening rate 2 or more times causing many problems in soft tissues and nerves) is a disadvantage?
Quote from: Body Builder on August 30, 2024, 03:14:37 PMAre you stupid or you really ask why accidental (which means that you can exceed the normal lengthening rate 2 or more times causing many problems in soft tissues and nerves) is a disadvantage?
I highly doubt soft tissue problems are really that big of a deal compared to other problems you could be getting with this surgery, they eventually adapt to whatever lengthening you perform. People who whine about soft tissue issues here are probably snowflakes who can't handle simple discomfort or are not short enough to be serious about it in the first place.
Quote from: heightiseverything on August 30, 2024, 04:58:43 PMI highly doubt soft tissue problems are really that big of a deal compared to other problems you could be getting with this surgery, they eventually adapt to whatever lengthening you perform. People who whine about soft tissue issues here are probably snowflakes who can't handle simple discomfort or are not short enough to be serious about it in the first place.
Soft tissues adaptation is the biggest issue in LL otherwise we could lengthen at rates of 0,5cm oer day and use a bone graft and gain 8cm in 2 weeks.
But if you do that you will not able to walk again.
You are completely ignorant and don't know even basic staff about LL. I hope you are never do LL because you will be completely ruined.
Quote from: heightiseverything on August 28, 2024, 07:04:35 PMDepends on your lengthening goals. Everything else is the same except weightbearing. Betzbone is also pricier.
NO !... everything is different !
With clicking implants you suffer like crazy for every click... and are so many clicks !... With Precice is no pain. There are enough suffering and pain, so you don't need an extra pain to hate your life !... because that is happening with Betzbone/Gnail.
With clicking implants you cannot do reverse lengthen in case you need. For example in my case I needed to do back and forth for 20 days, so I did it because I have Precice !
Also, I know a person who got 9 cm with Betzbone and finally after 6 month of so much suffering... found they left him finish lengthening with 1.5cm discrepancy !... They didn't do the final measure and not even asked him to go to a special x-ray, CT or EOS to do the measuring...
So they just didn't care about it.... and this is malpractices !
Quote from: I want 8,07 cm on August 29, 2024, 04:35:14 PMPrecise Max is now available in the USA. In Europe it seems that it will be available in 2025, so the price difference would be huge. It is true that betzbone tend to accidentally click on it. Dr Becker says it in a video. I am going to see how a guy I met in Germany finishes his lengthening. And then I will draw my own conclusions. At the moment, in case anyone wants to take a look, I am thinking of going to South Africa with Dr. Birkholtz. Of all the ones I have seen, along with Paley and Lee, there is sure to be another one there. They are the best in this type of cosmetic procedures. In South Africa, the prices are relatively cheaper than those of American surgeons. It is advisable to be in South Africa during the entire lengthening process.
Precise Max is not available in South Africa or?
I dont think so. Dr Birkholtz work just with precise 2. But he is a very good surgeon and the priice is very good. Thursday i have one meeting via zoom. Im excited 🤗
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