@Siegfried basically what lessthanavg8300 is describing. A very weird sensation and freaks out other people for sure lol. My gf was terrified when she felt the "pop"
This is so mind blowing. I can't emphasize this enough guys, medical research has shown that the ITB band is fairly resistant to stretching. Stretching is so important yes, but so much evidence and an incredible ammount of testimony here has been precisely in favour of the ITB release.
I am so happy your problem was resolved.
I am due to have my surgery, and i genuinely will beg for a full ITB release. I don't want to pay this much money only to stop early because for me, if i get those complication it might stop me from getting past the length i want.
Hey let us know if you'll return for an update?
I also found this, which corroborates what you've said about the ITB release you had with Goitikas
Read this: https://uesca.com/it-band-syndrome-myths-and-facts/
"Let’s first address stretching. The ITB is a very tough structure. In fact, in a 2010 study by Falvey et al., a strain gauge was used to test various stretches on the ITB and the result was that the ITB was unaffected.
Therefore, it is highly unlikely that stretching will have any effect on the ‘tightness’ of the ITB."
I highly recommend reading this: https://www.painscience.com/articles/iliotibial-band-syndrome-stretch.php
"Even if you do everything right, even if you perform the ideal stretch and manage to pull firmly on your IT band for a couple minutes — which is longer than most people ever bother — how much would you actually change the length of your IT band? How far would it move?
Roughly 2 millimeters — an overall change in length of less than half a percent.
You still won’t actually change its length, any more than you can make a leather belt longer by pulling on it. This is the most important thing IT band stretchers need to understand."
And also this: https://thedoctorsofpt.com/it-band-pain-myth-v-reality/#:~:text=Myth%202%3A%20The%20ITB%20can,to%20actually%20induce%20a%20stretch.
"Myth 2: The ITB can and should be stretched
Since the ITB is made up of fascia, which is different from a muscle, it’s nearly impossible to stretch it. It would take way more force than we’re capable of producing on our own, to actually induce a stretch. This is a good thing – since the roles of the ITB are to stabilize the side of the knee and provide energy storage and release during running, we don’t really want it to be stretchy anyway. "
If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
Hi guys, it has been 2 years since my surgery. Here's an update.
1) As discussed in the thread, ITB release is critical. I have had both of my legs released, but my right hip is still tight. It occasionally has a popping sensation mentioned below as well. It was coincidently also the one I had pain clicking. It is just a tighter leg.
2) I do not have a visible gait.
3) My hip and hamstrings muscles have fully recovered. However, the quads are thin and difficult to train since I have begun to have knee problems.
4) The most important story is the chronic knee pain. My left knee had always been the easier leg to click, stretch and recover. However, this may also be the reason why it is now chronically in pain. I suspect the femur-tibia traction is off. I do not know if it is due to the lengthening surgery, ITB release, or my poor squatting posture. Note that people with elongated femurs will always put more stress on their knees when squatting the same depth, given a longer angular distance / leverage point.
Already contacted Betz, Giotikas, and generic physiotherapists to no avail. Might enlist more professional knee therapists. Would appreciate any of your insights as well!
Thanks
Thanks for the update. Have you taken the nail out yet?
3 years (RHS 8cm Precice femur) , one year (LHS Precice Femur 8cm) post surgery, both knees click and pop more so than pre-surgery, now both knees are stiff all the time and the LHS TFL gives me pain almost constantly esp. noticeable if knees are bent for a few minutes of sitting then trying to stand up, usually have to grab something to pull me up or push off with hands - yes like an old man.
Squatting pre surgery was easy, and i could squat 100 lbs no problem, and could deep Asian squat (like squatting in a rice paddy field) for 15 minutes easy with no pain , but now max squats with no weights at all is like 15 reps before knees/thigh give out, esp left knee gives me pain, I cannot really deep squat now at all, note I usually do 100 full pushups, groin stretches (Yoga poses) and 4*10 body squats per day, I ride my bike daily to work and gym 3 times a week I am 66kg at 5 10.5 and not unfit, during squats i now have to lean back and keep my hands locked behind my neck to stop myself toppling over forwards.
I walk ~ 2 klms at least daily and my tibs (frontalis muscles) get very pumped to the point I have to slow my walking and let the pump dissipate before I can pick up the pace again, this maybe due to my new T/F ratio of 0.72, my running is comical and slow, I hate this tbh as I was fast before surgery, I have considered lengthening Tibs to help the T/F ratio as this may solve the walking running issues?.
@thankscience
I still have the nails inside as I'm still doing hard stretching. Looking to remove them in the next 12 months, perhaps with another ITB release on my right.
@throwaway123456
Ah, it must be due to our T/F ratio then. My right leg is actually OK, but my left has completely given in. I'm around 68kg and active as well. I guess not all parts of us recover post a major surgery, sigh.
Your journey was one of the journeys that inspired me to go on this myself
and i have surgery in 3 months time.
Betz has now retired, and Becker has taken over.
He is offering a 'soft' ITB release, where they poke holes to create a mesh type elasticity/stretch, as opposed the the kind of ITB release that is more aggressive that you had with Goitikas that gives you a proper, rather than soft release.
It is absolutely amazing to have you post on here. Legitimately, what is life like ten centimeters taller? How does it feel?
And with regards to your iTB release with Goitikas - did you get this done while still lengthening, and do you know what sort of iTB release it was? I.E. Z cut?
Quote from: sixfootandhalf on May 29, 2023, 09:19:55 AMand i have surgery in 3 months time.
I thought your surgery was in July? Why 3 months?
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