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Posted on Jan 17, 2023, 11:34 pm
#41

Quote from: Ichdereine on January 17, 2023, 07:27:11 PMSo yesterday I visited my first clinic „Livelifetaller“. As soon as I arrived there were people from this clinic (or company in name health?)with walkie talkies and then a woman came up and asked me who I was, even though I had announced my appointment several months ago. I told them Sedat knows about my arrival but I feel this guy is God there and knows more than any Professor or Doctor how leg lengthening works and it just turned in. (He has been a patient himself and has had the surgery 3 times and has grown 20cm and I doubt he even studied)I didn't see him because I was told he was in surgery  (which I didn't believe). This is where I got suspicious for the first time

I was kindly offered a coffee and then the younger brother Sedat came and he showed me through the clinics and answered all my questions. I was shown the rooms and everywhere were the "physiotherapists" that you can see on the instagram pictures and I had the feeling they want to build a family feeling towards you (which doesn't work for everyone like me because I'm very serious and I don't of feelings people and because these people are all about the MONEY no matter how much I suffer from my height).II have always asked sensitive questions, which is why I was looked at sensitively by this person because I didn't respond to their "family". I am there in these 3 months to grow and not to make the best contacts or anything else.  After these 3 months I'm gone and what got me into building this hypocritical relationship?  I will never visit this clinic again because I hope I have achieved my goal.

After that, a woman who spoke German introduced herself to me in the lobby and she answered my questions honestly like Sedat's brother, which I thought was good. After that I am going to address the most important question which is the price of LON Femur. And now attention (the operation and hotel accommodation cost 35 thousand euros and 2 months ago the same operation cost 25 thousand euros) I asked them what the reason was and they told me inflation was the main reason and the pills that you take for the operation you have to pay less and you have to pay for everything yourself.

In these 35 thousand, food is not covered. Not even breakfast where certain nutrients are very important and healthy reasons for healing and strengthening bones. asked him how many euros I have to reckon with in addition to the 35,000 in order to be able to eat well at least every other day, since nutrition is important after the operation. He said i should pay 5 thousand extra so the fun costs 40 thousand euros!

The price annoyed me so much that I closed my heart with this clinic. Yes, it's true, the physiotherapy is first good (Personally, I don't think family relationships with patients are good) and you have 24 services in these 3 months, you have people who are similar but please 40 thousand euros for an operation where you get a full plate of kebabs for 7 euros in Turkey?

This God Sedat or Dr.  Buldu should be ashamed to offer such an operation for 40 thousand euros, which was 25 thousand euros 2 months ago.  It is ashamed of others and un-Islamic to deal with the suffering of people in this way.

 And why are they increasing the prices? I don't want their "family" relationship of patient to therapist, I want to grow up to 8 inches safely and cheaply. I think that's the best way to go to this clinic, but for this price I don't give a fk! 40 thousand is more than perverse! And the doctor who does this is not even a professor, Sedat is portrayed as the saint who takes all your pain away (and takes the money out of your wallet because of your suffering because of your lack of height)

It also seemed like a lie to me that this clinic is always full of patients! The patients I spoke to made a good impression, everyone said they could walk after 2 days with help and definitely don't regret their decision.  But I won't do it for 40 thousand euros!

But I had a feeling from this team that they looked at me too pessimistically and I think this price is too high and that's why they commented on each other and I saw it in their looks. I don't give a   about the family atmosphere for 40,000 euros, but yes, you can certainly achieve your goal of growing because I think the physiotherapy is good and the equipment was good. Anyone who can afford it and can handle their conscience well should operate on it. I will not do it.

In summary, I would also have asked 40 thousand euros per person for an operation as an entrepreneur, also established a family relationship with patients and would be very nice.  But I didn't fall for it. So for me LiveLifeTaller failed because they work very hypocritically, they try to make you feel safe in an emotional way so that you can continue to be there and pay. Not with me.


Rising surgery cost due to inflation is a real thing across the globe for limb lengthening and will probably continue to rise due to the nature of this surgery ( LL popularity has exploded in recent years and only driving up demand ). The price in Korea have also skyrocketed with Dr. Lee and other Korean Doctors also increased their surgery cost by around 10k average ( both precice and LON ) and all stated they will continue to increase prices in a yearly basis as well which made some concern in the Korean LL community.

Limb lengthening surgeons in Korea also have a long waitlist ( 6 months ~ 2 year ) because there are so many people wanting to get this surgery but there's a lack of proven/quality surgeons that can assure a satisfactory result. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Buldu was busy doing surgery since LLT is one of the biggest/popular LL hospital out there ( the Japanese LL twitter community is extremely big and many of their first choice is LLT).

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Posted on Jan 18, 2023, 12:47 am
#42

Quote from: femurs2022 on December 29, 2022, 12:57:45 AMFYI you might be able to do limb lengthening with precise in the US for $66k or even less. I paid less than that. I don't see why anyone would go to Turkey when you can pay the same amount and get the safety/protection of doing this in the US. By the way, it's not that I don't think it is possible to get good healthcare somewhere other than the US. But I think there is enough evidence that there clearly is not enough regulation of this procedure in Turkey given the complications patients have had and continue to have.



how did you do that? every cent counts lmao working on saving 100k but im only 19 so yeah not so easy

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Posted on Jan 18, 2023, 12:49 am
#43

Quote from: JJ299 on January 17, 2023, 11:34:08 PM ( the Japanese LL twitter community is extremely big and many of their first choice is LLT).


FINALLY!!! THE ASAINS ARE SMART STEREOTYPE IS DISPROVEN!!!

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Posted on Jan 18, 2023, 2:16 pm
#44

Quote from: oklama on January 18, 2023, 12:49:17 AMFINALLY!!! THE ASAINS ARE SMART STEREOTYPE IS DISPROVEN!!!


Yeah it's pretty surprising just how big LLT is in Japan and you can probably see JP patients show up in LLTs marketing videos as well. I think LLT hires Japanese recruiters ( I think one of them goes by the name samurai on twitter who was also a LL veteran ) to persuade LLT is a top choice compared to other popular closer destinations like Korea.

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Posted on Jan 19, 2023, 12:52 pm
#45

Better off paying an extra 15k and getting internal weight bearing nails. 40k is a ridiculous amount, ridiculous.

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Posted on Jan 19, 2023, 9:01 pm
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Posted on Jan 19, 2023, 9:45 pm
#47

Quote from: JJ299 on January 18, 2023, 02:16:16 PMYeah it's pretty surprising just how big LLT is in Japan and you can probably see JP patients show up in LLTs marketing videos as well. I think LLT hires Japanese recruiters ( I think one of them goes by the name samurai on twitter who was also a LL veteran ) to persuade LLT is a top choice compared to other popular closer destinations like Korea.


its disgusting. people like LLT is half the reason why this surgery has a bad name. but I guess thats what people get for not doing their due diligence on something this complicated

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Posted on Jan 20, 2023, 5:17 pm
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Quote from: oklama on January 18, 2023, 12:47:44 AMhow did you do that? every cent counts lmao working on saving 100k but im only 19 so yeah not so easy


It mostly depends whether your insurance cover anything or not. If it doesn't then you'll probably pay more than $60k (but less than $100k with some doctors).

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Posted on Jan 23, 2023, 9:03 am
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Posted on Jan 23, 2023, 1:39 pm
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Agreed, alot of good points made

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