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Posted on Jan 12, 2014, 2:33 pm
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Quote from: Wannabegiant on January 12, 2014, 06:40:37 AMBut arent the external frames supposed to be stable enought to keep the bones steady in place, preserving the gap? I guess there is some sort of weight limit that it can withstand. I weight like 64 Kilos only so they should be able to hold that weight without losing height gain.


No, they're not. The external frames all have a weight limit. But even if you are under the weight limit, they do compress to a certain extend depending on your weight. But my only experience has been with Dr. Sarin's external frame.

But even if you do lose height during your lengthening phase, you can still make up for it. It just means you have to make up for your lost.

Quote from: Wannabegiant on January 12, 2014, 06:40:37 AMBut after lengthening phase is over, and you are in consolidation phase, is there still a risk of losing height by just standing up and walking? I cant imagine having to lay down for like 4 months total, i cant think of any other patients that did that. I mean during consolidation phase I assume there would already be solid callus on the outer part of the bones, keeping the bone from compressing, while the inner part of the bone keeps healing until it is strong enough to carry the body weight again without the frame.

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I don't know. I haven't heard of such thing until I saw Sweden's post. But I do think the x-ray taken at the privat hospital where we all had our xray were overly optimistic so we always had to deduct 5mm from the measurement. I don't know what he did. The only one which I reliably base my measurement on was the one at Sarin's hospital. And he said I had 8.2cm. So we reduce it to 8cm. My roommate was dying for 8cm as well because he was only 5'4 to begin with but ended up with just 7.4cm... even though the x-ray at the pivat hospital said he got 8cm.

Also, you need to take into account of ballerina. Some people at the guesthouse measured their height along with their ballerina foot, so they were vastly disappointed a few months later when their heel touch the ground.

When we had the frames removed, we were allowed to walk right away after 2 weeks. But the rods which are inserted in place can only bear weight of 60kg. So you need to be careful in the early phase of the consolidation. I heard of some cases of the Betz nail being popped. Sysop tibia is one example. He had to replaced them with the titanium nail.

If you lengthen only 4cm and can pay by cm, then I think that is like an insurance policy. I know a very old patient who only achieved 2.9cm due to pain and another Japanese patient who got only 4cm. And we all paid the same price.

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Posted on Jan 12, 2014, 11:51 pm
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Okey thanks for the info, but im still really desperate to know if i can really lose height by simply walking after lengthening phase is over. My plan was to fly home for the consolidation phase, and i know others have done that even with externals only. But how could anyone dare to do that if there is a risk of losing height even in this stage? there is no way to make up for it any more when im not at the hospital any longer.

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Posted on Jan 13, 2014, 12:45 am
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Quote from: Wannabegiant on January 12, 2014, 11:51:18 PMOkey thanks for the info, but im still really desperate to know if i can really lose height by simply walking after lengthening phase is over. My plan was to fly home for the consolidation phase, and i know others have done that even with externals only. But how could anyone dare to do that if there is a risk of losing height even in this stage? there is no way to make up for it any more when im not at the hospital any longer.


Hey you'll need to ask your doctor this question. Most doctors use different nail and have their own method. And I don't know your doctor, so it's best if you ask your doctor this question.

With Sarin, you are advised to stay back for at least 1 month for consolidation. But I left for home after 4 weeks to keep my job. The nail that Sarin inserts into his patients can bear weight of 60kg, for normal activity like walking. But as your bone consolidates more and more, you can bear more weight and perform more extraneous activities like running and jumping.

Yeah, every nail is different. And depending on what he inserts into you, it's better to ask your doc this question. But I would budget 2.5 months for 4cm before being able to come back home.

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Posted on Jan 13, 2014, 6:31 am
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Quote from: Smallguy on January 13, 2014, 12:45:48 AMHey you'll need to ask your doctor this question. Most doctors use different nail and have their own method. And I don't know your doctor, so it's best if you ask your doctor this question.

With Sarin, you are advised to stay back for at least 1 month for consolidation. But I left for home after 4 weeks to keep my job. The nail that Sarin inserts into his patients can bear weight of 60kg, for normal activity like walking. But as your bone consolidates more and more, you can bear more weight and perform more extraneous activities like running and jumping.

Yeah, every nail is different. And depending on what he inserts into you, it's better to ask your doc this question. But I would budget 2.5 months for 4cm before being able to come back home.


Yeah, but from what i understand, part of the bone should consolidate pretty fast, just that it is to weak to wear the whole body weight. So the risk would be breakage, fracture and if that happens i could imagine losing some height. But unless it fractures i dont see how compression would be possible, if it is the externals only seem way to risky.

I wont use a nail as mentioned. Regardless of what my doctor says it wont compress dont think i can trust that 100% after hearing about this, other patient experiences seem to be the only reliable source of info.

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Posted on Jan 15, 2014, 9:03 am
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There will likely be pressure from the doctor to do weight-bearing during lengthening, you will have to be stern and say no if that's what you want.  Maybe someone who has had LL can tell us if weight-bearing was their option or if it was dictated to them

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Posted on Jan 15, 2014, 4:38 pm
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Quote from: GetTallOrGoGay on January 15, 2014, 09:03:41 AMThere will likely be pressure from the doctor to do weight-bearing during lengthening, you will have to be stern and say no if that's what you want.  Maybe someone who has had LL can tell us if weight-bearing was their option or if it was dictated to them


In China they told us to stand but nobody forced us to do anything.

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Posted on Feb 16, 2014, 7:04 pm
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LL is not a race it is a marathon if you think you can just race to the finish line and worry about stretching and flexibility and ROM when you get home and where your comfortable then your in for a world of hurt. being on the operating table is not where the surgery ends.

THE SURGERY IS THE STRETCHING PART DAY IN DAY OUT DURING LENGTHENING.

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Posted on Feb 17, 2014, 5:06 am
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Nah, I took it easy during lengthening and worried about flexibility and ROM when I got home.  It turned out fine in the end.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 3:23 am
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ok I guess it wont turn out so bad for everyone. good to know it can be done Height Shrunk After LL Surgery

still when I get ll this year ill be stretching like a peacks tail during the mating season. Height Shrunk After LL Surgery

better safe than sorry Height Shrunk After LL Surgery

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Posted on Nov 19, 2018, 1:57 am
#30

I also lost height. Check my  diary

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5465.0

Quote from: Russianblues on January 11, 2014, 04:27:47 AMThe first patient measured 2.5cm lower than what he should have. After that Harry took the measuring tape and told the caretakers no one was allowed to be measured.



Monegal hides the machine too and forbids patients to measure

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