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Posted on Jul 23, 2020, 10:42 pm
#11

Hey A,

I do think you're being honest and sincere. I also think you would probably do well after getting this surgery, as I can tell you aren't doing this for women or sxxual appeal. I think you're trying to further your dream and make it more realistic by considering this surgery.

One thing I would like to say, is that you need to be willing to give up your current athletic function and ideal normal proportions if you want to be taller. You have to. Until you accept this reality and are willing to lose somethings in life, I doubt you will be satisfied post surgery.

Thank you for being honest A. I also have alot to say and I will make a separate post, probably going to be my last post for a while, at least a few years hopefully.

I'm 18 by the way.

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Posted on Jul 23, 2020, 10:53 pm
#12

Hello again,

Sorry, I was kind of sensitive and I used insulting words more than once, my bad. But I think I kinda did a good job puking my feelings out. I really needed that.
Second of all, I used to be very good at football and I quit like 5 years ago. (Professionally, football was kind of my "profession", i was almost paid for it)
After quitting football, I seriously haven't done anything related to sports. I'm kind of a lazy guy, I've never used my %100 athleticity anyway except football, probably not.

Well, of course we need to sacrifice something but what I mean is, there are sort of solutions for the stuff which are concern.
Like, balance. I'm pretty sure if everything goes well on your femur surgery and after 2 years you can run etc. Although you are almost at your pre LL level I'm pretty sure you'd have worse balance than having 2 surgeries.
What I mean is, balance thing could be fixed with also lengthening the tibia.

Since I'm concerned about "if everything goes well" thing, I decided to get the surgery fully internal. Especially with STRYDE.
I'll either go to Paley, Donghoon Lee (which is legit the god of LL), or Dr Halil Buldu.
I'm pretty sure they are skilled enough to destroy all the concerns which are depended on the surgeon who will be applying the surgery.
As a smooth result, all I have to focus on is stretching and trying to adapt.

You cannot imagine how pessimistic i am irl. But still, I still got hopes that everything could be as good as used to be after 2 surgeries.
You just have to work hard. Very, very hard. But after that, you'll be gifted by the best gift in the world.

Best Regards

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Posted on Jul 23, 2020, 10:58 pm
#13

And also,

All I want to be able to do after the surgery are:

-to run smoothly
-to bend my legs as far as any human could
-being able to sleep in any position i want, without my legs getting hurt

I'm not asking for other stuff like Mr. Sweden does, extreme kicks, 720 turns, etc.
I've never cared about doing those stuff anyway. I just wanna be able to use my legs like a normal human being.

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Posted on Jul 23, 2020, 11:21 pm
#14

Quote from: A on July 23, 2020, 10:58:37 PMAnd also,

All I want to be able to do after the surgery are:

-to run smoothly
-to bend my legs as far as any human could
-being able to sleep in any position i want, without my legs getting hurt

I'm not asking for other stuff like Mr. Sweden does, extreme kicks, 720 turns, etc.
I've never cared about doing those stuff anyway. I just wanna be able to use my legs like a normal human being.


I really doubt you'll have too much trouble doing all of that after you recover from doing quadrilaterals. After 5 years I think all should be fine.

If you do the 2 year gap between femurs and Tibias you should definitely be able to run.

 Long term knee flexion isn't really a concern with LL if you do the appropriate amounts of lengthening.

Sleep should be fine. The only thing that may be affected is kneeling on a hard surface. Internal nails into the Tibias is associated with knee pain like if you kneel on the floor. Personally, I have knee pain when I kneel anyways, and I obviously haven't done LL. On a bed it's not a problem at all, no knee pain, Medium Drink of Water pointed out.

Will you have to give up any chance of being decent at extreme physical sports? Probably. Will you give up explosiveness and agility? Definitely. Will you still be able to do everything the average man in the world does day to day? Probably as well. People live normal lives, the average person doesn't run, or exercise, or play sports. I think you'll be fine after a conservative amount of lengthening with a big gap between the surgeries and a good stretching schedule.

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Posted on Jul 23, 2020, 11:52 pm
#15

Quote from: ghkid2019 on July 23, 2020, 11:21:00 PMI really doubt you'll have too much trouble doing all of that after you recover from doing quadrilaterals. After 5 years I think all should be fine.

If you do the 2 year gap between femurs and Tibias you should definitely be able to run.

 Long term knee flexion isn't really a concern with LL if you do the appropriate amounts of lengthening.

Sleep should be fine. The only thing that may be affected is kneeling on a hard surface. Internal nails into the Tibias is associated with knee pain like if you kneel on the floor. Personally, I have knee pain when I kneel anyways, and I obviously haven't done LL. On a bed it's not a problem at all, no knee pain, Medium Drink of Water pointed out.

Will you have to give up any chance of being decent at extreme physical sports? Probably. Will you give up explosiveness and agility? Definitely. Will you still be able to do everything the average man in the world does day to day? Probably as well. People live normal lives, the average person doesn't run, or exercise, or play sports. I think you'll be fine after a conservative amount of lengthening with a big gap between the surgeries and a good stretching schedule.


It really is always good to talk to you brother, you are always realistic and helpful. You are one of the best members of this forum imo.
Also, I want to get the surgery done before I reach 23. So I can lie to people that I had a late growth spurt or say that I used HGH to increase my height.
Only my mother and father will know about it. Not even my little brother, he's not even damn little. He's 14 and 6'1.

But the budget is too complicated. 100k euros? Almost impossible to obtain. I hope the luck shall shine over my soul. Idk how. I just hope.
I won't even end up with a good uni since i keep wasting my time on forums and youtube watching videos about LL. Lmao. Pathetic.

Best Regards

edit: The reason I care about proportion is that if i dont get the tibia done in the future, i'll probably end up looking exactly like this LOL
https://ltdfoto.ru/image/JSKPf

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Posted on Jul 24, 2020, 12:57 am
#16

Keep the faith, CLL will become cheaper and easier, just like smartphones, cars, microwave owens, solar power or computers. There will be always a minimum price, but they will be more affordable. That happened with other cosmetic and not cosmetic surgeries.

Also if the surgery becomes more popular, you won't need to worry about what people thinks of it.

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Posted on Jul 24, 2020, 2:18 am
#17

Hi there,

At first I was also going to point at you that starting at 174 adding 10 cm won't dramatically change your life since you are just a tad under average, however reading about your desire to pursue a career in modeling makes it more understandable.

HOWEVER, modelling is short length career, max 10 yrs and then you will be replaced by the next younger male model.

You mentioned however you also want to purchase a career in DESIGN AND FASHION. And this I consider is not affected by your height, in fact every single famous male fashion designer is just average or even under average.

Michael Kors, Tommy Hilfiger, Giorgio Armani, Steve Madden, Giani Versace, Ralph Lauren, Marc Jacob, Amancio Ortega and hundreds other designers have been trend setters and built fashion empires and these guys aint models or even tall.

Youd be much better spending those same 100 k in launching your own brand and setting up your company.
I do believe that any guy  above 175 cm won't get much benefits doing this surgery if they don't exceeded already in other areas in their life.

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Posted on Jul 24, 2020, 1:29 pm
#18

Thanks for the replies.

I know, forget about the modelling itself. I just want to look good in any kinds of outfits.That's the main idea.Even though if I can't be a model, i'd still feel like one. That's the case.That's what would make me happy.
I can't look good with this height, I'm pretty sure 10-12cm would completely change my life and kill my height dysphoria. If everything went smooth and no complications occured.

Best Regards

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