Not a condescending comment in nature but, who are these Paley patients you speak off? Don't reveal their identities of course, but what did they say?
Quote from: Alu on May 28, 2016, 09:51:22 PMNot a condescending comment in nature but, who are these Paley patients you speak off? Don't reveal their identities of course, but what did they say?
2 cosmetic patients, a girl from Singapore and a guy from the US.
1 non-cosmetic patient from Cyprus. The guy from Cyprus pretty much told me the whole truth that your body does in fact change since he wasn't doing it for cosmetic reasons. Private message me if you want more information.
The other patients don't care about their bodies. If you want to do LL go ahead, I support anyone who is willing to do it, I don't want to prevent anyone's goals... I am just trying to warn people 
Quote from: sadboy on May 28, 2016, 09:21:38 PMThis site is about Limb Lengthening in general. People should know the truth that not everything will be "perfect" and achievable. This is reality. LL is not worth it for everyone and you should be aware of that.
I am not looking for attention, I am trying to make people aware of the whole situation and I am not jealous if somebody does LL nor do I want to bring someone down... I am trying to help anyone I can because I know that height dysphoria can be extremely tiring and depressing... Also, I am not the only one who is posting the complications around here and let me tell you that many doctors do not mention the cons I mentioned above... Dr. Paley lied to me that my legs and body will remain unchanged... Who is he fooling when I asked his patients and they told me that that is not true...
Courage? Even if I have the "courage" to do it, I'm trying to say here that LL will not be worth it for me... Has nothing to do with what you mentioned. I just used my logic the last minute before surgery and put all my feelings aside, this surgery is not going to improve my life so what's the point of doing it if it will make me even more depressed? I'm trying to warn people to make sure what they want and if they care a lot about their bodies as much as I do...
Listen I know you think you are helping others out but you're really not. You are not adding anything concrete or specific so that people can better formulate their own opinions. You are just sharing your anxieties and hoping people will give you a pat on the back or confirm your own fears. Most the things you posted are actual non issues. It's one thing when a member like tibike200 goes out and does research on scientific articles and reviews you are just saying things like "I'm afraid it will hurt" or I'm going to lose time and proportions might look bad, these all vary case by case and they are your own personal reasons and have nothing to do with anyone else.
It's just more negativity from someone that can't do LL and wants to bash it so he can stop dreaming about it.
Plain and simple, good luck in your life but your insecurities are your own and your reasons are crap for the most part, you have shared no "truth" because all this info is already out there, they are the possible symptoms and risks what is your reason for trying to sway others if not for the fact that you are bitter
@Sadboy:
I think, if you don't want to do this, all power to you. Then don't do it.
I just don't get why you think that other people shouldn't do this if they made an informed choice about the whole thing.
And getting informed is what this site is about.
Quote from: ub40 on May 29, 2016, 09:52:01 AMListen I know you think you are helping others out but you're really not. You are not adding anything concrete or specific so that people can better formulate their own opinions. You are just sharing your anxieties and hoping people will give you a pat on the back or confirm your own fears. Most the things you posted are actual non issues. It's one thing when a member like tibike200 goes out and does research on scientific articles and reviews you are just saying things like "I'm afraid it will hurt" or I'm going to lose time and proportions might look bad, these all vary case by case and they are your own personal reasons and have nothing to do with anyone else.
It's just more negativity from someone that can't do LL and wants to bash it so he can stop dreaming about it.
Plain and simple, good luck in your life but your insecurities are your own and your reasons are crap for the most part, you have shared no "truth" because all this info is already out there, they are the possible symptoms and risks what is your reason for trying to sway others if not for the fact that you are bitter
The reasons can be "crap" to you but not to others. I clearly stated 'PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE ME'. I support anyone who wants to do LL if they don't give a sh!t about proportions or leg size etc... I am saying what I feel about this surgery. Do you want to do LL? If yes, then what I am saying shouldn't affect your decision... If you do it though and regret it (not everyone is satisfied lets not be biased here) don't complain about LL... It was clearly your choice, you knew the consequences.
PS: I can do LL if I want to... I can afford Paley...
Quote from: Cheez on May 29, 2016, 11:31:20 AM@Sadboy:
I think, if you don't want to do this, all power to you. Then don't do it.
I just don't get why you think that other people shouldn't do this if they made an informed choice about the whole thing.
And getting informed is what this site is about.
I did not say to you not to do LL... Do it! If you are not affected by the cons and you are so desperate to change your height then go ahead...
You stating that doing LL will ruin proportions is completely wrong. If someone already has very long legs and they do a large amount then yes that is a possibility but it's not a given like you shamelessly imply.
Furthermore, of course it's my choice, what is the alternative that you're disputing? You're obviously trying to scare people with your exaggerations.
You stated that you will be hooked on painkillers which is false, you stated that your proportions will be ruined which is also false, you are clearly reaching for hypothetical situations and choosing the outcomes to be negative as if it's a certainty. Maybe it's who you are, and you are a pessimistic person by nature and you're trying to fool yourself by voicing these things to help yourself put this surgery in the past.
But most the things you posted like time, money are all based on personal preferences which vary from person to person. There are also different methods and different doctors that people can pick and choose based on their preference.
I mean I understand your point of view, but the irritating thing is that this forum has been ruined by people that are constantly bashing these procedures because in their personal limited view they decided against it. I mean go, kudos to you, move on with your life why grasp at straws to make others turn away.
As for me, I'm in the process of doing this surgery and I'm halfway there. What I think so far about proportions, pain, money, time etc is that it's worthwhile and I wish I did it sooner.
Edit* You also stated if I have regrets I shouldn't be allowed to voice them which is wrong in my opinion. This site serves its purpose when information both positive and negative is passed around by its members. Not half truths and hypothetical scenarios by people that are planning on doing nothing passing off opinions as facts.
Quote from: aspirant185 on May 28, 2016, 12:10:15 PMSadboy, thank you for the nice post.
Your post made me realize that I will only do 5 cm through one surgery and not 9 cm as initially planned. There is so much more to life than height.
Dude in all honesty im 19 years old and if they offered me limb lengthening everything free to go from 5'5 to 5'7 it would be pointless. Even if i was older still pointless. Thats only 2 inches. Barely noticeable bro. Dont waste your time. If your doing LL it should be at least 3 inches or 4,5. It's entirely up to you but you could literally get 2 inches from wearing your everyday shoes. Its almost like your getting a painful surgery just to experience the pain. Think smarter my man. No offence to your decision if you go through with it because i personally feel that if i was taller throughout my life it would have changed everything. i just dont recommend that small a gain in the least bit. You might regret that afterwards.
Eh, complications are to be risked. I agree.
I haven't seen someone absurdly disproportionate doing upto 3 inches of lengthening.
"Almost all" of athletic ability is good enough for most people.
Yeah, one's gotta have time and money. The estimated in-process pain is temporary, permanent height stomps all over it by importance. Unless you keep having complications and pain, that's just unfortunate.
Quote from: sadboy on May 27, 2016, 11:49:31 PM1) Gain height. Maximum 7-8cm if my body even accepts the outcome. Guess what! I still wouldn't be satisfied with my height and I would still be considered short so in other words, this isn't even an advantage for me (and for some others).
Yeah no. 5'4 to 5'7 is a huge gain.
Quote from: CristianTheCuban on May 29, 2016, 07:29:26 PMDude in all honesty im 19 years old and if they offered me limb lengthening everything free to go from 5'5 to 5'7 it would be pointless. Even if i was older still pointless. Thats only 2 inches. Barely noticeable bro. Dont waste your time. If your doing LL it should be at least 3 inches or 4,5. It's entirely up to you but you could literally get 2 inches from wearing your everyday shoes. Its almost like your getting a painful surgery just to experience the pain. Think smarter my man. No offence to your decision if you go through with it because i personally feel that if i was taller throughout my life it would have changed everything. i just dont recommend that small a gain in the least bit. You might regret that afterwards.
5'5 to 5'7 is huge. Most people here aren't necessarily hoping to be tall, but rather not short. When you're 5'5 you're noticeable short. Even an inch is a huge difference, why do you think people invest in lifts?
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