Quote from: sadboy on May 27, 2016, 11:49:31 PMYou need a lot of patience, and you have to endure a lot of PAIN for years.
As opposed to...enduring a lot of mental PAIN for years, possibly for your whole life. Yes, it's true, for many of us - me included - just going out on the street and seeing what other men look like, what other men have been given for free, even though they did nothing to deserve it, makes us feel like inferior, crappy examples of human beings, every day, for years, for decades, the thought of "Hey, I'm human trash" popping into our minds. Seems like a worthy trade-off for some, and I can understand it .