I already told people here to not depend upon tolly's diary becoming greedy about money.I advice people to work hard and save momey and then go for internals being it tibias or femurs.His was just one diary and he was not willing to even help me wirth his email or contact no.Thank god he didn't.Everything will be alright Chris,not to worry 
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Yes. I went to an unknown/unreputable doctor in India.
I preached on this forums that the price for LL is not important to have good results and I still say it isn't.
Fact is that most short people have not enough money and spending 5 to 10 years to earn the cash for a money-greedy doctor is nothing more than a waste of ones remaining youth and lifetime.
You don't really profit from LL when you're kinda old!
One leg turned out totally fine.
The other isn't, but most likely because Dr. Deepak let one of his assistant doctors perform the surgery on the bad leg without checking this guy's results.
So it is not like Dr. Deepak was incompetent/not skilled. You just can't trust team Deepak. That's a difference!
Now one of my legs is messed up, but I can still live with it without pain. I'm not crippled.
If everything went fine, I would have paid about 13.000 EUR (total) to become taller.
Now I'll have to spend one more year, have more surgeries and to pay about 25.000 EUR.
That's still waaaay cheaper than most doctors and I still won't have to wait 5 to 10 fking years.
Whining about more risks, more pain, scars and lack of social acceptance due to visible external methods is for the weak. Then you simply don't want LL badly enough.
I don't blame anyone and I don't regret anything.
And now please stop turning my diary into a false example for why an entire country is supposedly bad and why you should pay ridiculous amounts to doctors just because they are famous!
Find a reputable doctor, not an expensive one!
If you have the money for internals, go for it, I would do the same if I had it, but this diary is for the poor and hopefully more down to earth than some other diaries that remind me of going to the spa or buying sports cars.
Regarding the user "tolly": He was legit. Both Dr. Deepak and Dr. Surbhit told me about one of their two patients who did 8cm.
And tolly contacted me twice asking how I'm doing long after he had stopped posting here.
Stay fair!
It's amazing that your spirit hasn't flagged. You will most definitely achieve your goal with your mindset, it'll just take you more time.
Quote from: Chris on March 23, 2017, 06:33:11 PMYes. I went to an unknown/unreputable doctor in India.
I preached on this forums that the price for LL is not important to have good results and I still say it isn't.
Fact is that most short people have not enough money and spending 5 to 10 years to earn the cash for a money-greedy doctor is nothing more than a waste of ones remaining youth and lifetime.
You don't really profit from LL when you're kinda old!
One leg turned out totally fine.
The other isn't, but most likely because Dr. Deepak let one of his assistant doctors perform the surgery on the bad leg without checking this guy's results.
So it is not like Dr. Deepak was incompetent/not skilled. You just can't trust team Deepak. That's a difference!
Now one of my legs is messed up, but I can still live with it without pain. I'm not crippled.
If everything went fine, I would have paid about 13.000 EUR (total) to become taller.
Now I'll have to spend one more year, have more surgeries and to pay about 25.000 EUR.
That's still waaaay cheaper than most doctors and I still won't have to wait 5 to 10 fking years.
Whining about more risks, more pain, scars and lack of social acceptance due to visible external methods is for the weak. Then you simply don't want LL badly enough.
I don't blame anyone and I don't regret anything.
And now please stop turning my diary into a false example for why an entire country is supposedly bad and why you should pay ridiculous amounts to doctors just because they are famous!
Find a reputable doctor, not an expensive one!
If you have the money for internals, go for it, I would do the same if I had it, but this diary is for the poor and hopefully more down to earth than some other diaries that remind me of going to the spa or buying sports cars.
Regarding the user "tolly": He was legit. Both Dr. Deepak and Dr. Surbhit told me about one of their two patients who did 8cm.
And tolly contacted me twice asking how I'm doing long after he stopped posting here. Stay fair!
I know you are still enthusiastic but your results prove the contrary. People put down India as many doctors are unknown, and don't have the same skills as more expensive doctors. Parihar seems like the only one there with a consistent trend of reliability. I do think the biggest mistake was not staying there for distraction, they would have had to have done something seeing all your complications.
Quote from: bander72 on March 23, 2017, 06:56:50 PMI do think the biggest mistake was not staying there for distraction, they would have had to have done something seeing all your complications.
I have German doctors at home who look after me. No need to waste money on a stay in India.
The only thing you can do with my left leg is to start all over again, because the three most important things are messed up:
1) poor osteotomy with bone fragments and a split tibia; always contact between the bones --> prevents lengthening
2) the tibia can't glide over the nail inserted because it is too tight --> prevents lengthening
3) the monorail fixator is not aligned properly --> prevents lengthening and the pressure built up while trying to lengthen is additionally bad for 1) and 2)
That's checkmate for my leg.
Like my German doctors said, the tibia really needs to heal first. Then off with the fixator, then out with the nail and break the leg again.
Idk why ppl don't spend 9.300€ for mitkovic who is very experienced in this field and doesnt cost much, you could have spent 13.000€ on mitko and he has 100x experience of who you went to
Quote from: DreamOf180cm on March 23, 2017, 08:11:54 PMIdk why ppl don't spend 9.300€ for mitkovic who is very experienced in this field and doesnt cost much, you could have spent 13.000€ on mitko and he has 100x experience of who you went to
Who would you chose between Parihar and Mitkovic or any other doctor for Tibiae?
Quote from: Chris on March 23, 2017, 07:25:54 PMI have German doctors at home who look after me. No need to waste money on a stay in India.
The only thing you can do with my left leg is to start all over again, because the three most important things are messed up:
1) poor osteotomy with bone fragments and a split tibia; always contact between the bones --> prevents lengthening
2) the tibia can't glide over the nail inserted because it is too tight --> prevents lengthening
3) the monorail fixator is not aligned properly --> prevents lengthening and the pressure built up while trying to lengthen is additionally bad for 1) and 2)
That's checkmate for my leg.
Like my German doctors said, the tibia really needs to heal first. Then off with the fixator, then out with the nail and break the leg again.
Yeah, but they won't know the same information than the ones that did the surgery. At least to have a clear answer of what the hell happened. Did you ever communicate with them after? They might think they did a great job with you.
Quote from: bander72 on March 18, 2017, 12:54:38 AMDo you feel taller at one inch gain.
Yes, I'm feeling taller. But I'm very short and so one inch makes a big difference.
I'm on eye-level with the short girls now. The ones who know me but don't know that I did LL have definitely noticed it.
When we were queuing in the canteen (I need help to carry my lunch) I tried to stay straight with my crutches and I could see the girls comparing heights 
The big guys don't see any difference though.
Quote from: doomsday on March 18, 2017, 01:04:04 AMIf i was you i would(...)
Thanks
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on March 18, 2017, 11:07:58 PMGood luck with your recovery, and you should also focus on hitting on some of these shorter girls. Go get them, tiger. Seriously, you are not losing motivation after all your struggles, you're my inspiration.
I have never been an inspiration to anyone. Thank you. This feels even better than getting a little bit taller
Regarding the girls: I'm 4 days in the new semester. Being on crutches has its advantages with the ladies I can tell you
Like I've written above, the short girls who are my height now are definitely comparing heights. And one girl who was like 2 inches taller than me (now 1 inch) said I would look good when we met again.
My big crush (she's not my girlfriend and she is single) was smiling when she picked me up for school (she has a car) and when I asked her if I looked taller she smiled even more and said yes. Too bad she is still 4cm taller than me 
She is very supportive and she said several times that she could understand why I wanted to become taller. But now she also noted that I was very confident in her eyes (before LL) and it felt like I had to defend myself a little and assure her that I'm still confident. Maybe I have won one point for height and lost another for less confidence, I don't know 
But in a nutshell, I definitely have been noticing a difference in the girls' behavior when I'm around their height.
So it's not about being tall, it's about being their height/taller then them.
Quote from: cole slaws on March 19, 2017, 02:18:06 AMWow this diary has been a roller coaster ride . Seriously I hope you manage to get your legs fixed though when you said your legs looked like scrambled eggs I got kinda hungry. I understand your pain; still finding a good reason to explain to my parents why Im wearing braces after I come back from india after 3 months.
I've also posted it in another thread, but I'm a fan of traffic accidents 
Both cars stood still, you tried to pass through, then one drive suddenly hit the gas and you got jammed between both cars. Both legs broken and they had to take you to the hospital for surgery. It worked several times without problems for the rare ppl in my life who better should not know the truth.
Quote from: TheLichKing on March 19, 2017, 05:47:26 AMAll the best wishes to you Chris, hope you recover well.
Thank you, LichKing
Quote from: Charis on March 23, 2017, 08:58:29 AMEverything will be alright Chris,not to worry .
Thank you too
Quote from: Penguinn on March 23, 2017, 06:49:53 PMIt's amazing that your spirit hasn't flagged. You will most definitely achieve your goal with your mindset, it'll just take you more time.
Yea, I will never give up. I think the most important thing for my brain is that I'm making progress at all.
Despite the shorter leg, gaining one inch has saved me for now.
Quote from: DreamOf180cm on March 23, 2017, 08:11:54 PMIdk why ppl don't spend 9.300€ for mitkovic who is very experienced in this field and doesnt cost much, you could have spent 13.000€ on mitko and he has 100x experience of who you went to
My surgery was 7.000 EUR for LON. The rest was additional expenses. Dr. Mitkovic's 9.300 EUR is without LON and expenses.
But I'm planning to go to Dr. Mitkovic or Dr. Solomin from now on.
Quote from: bander72 on March 23, 2017, 08:23:13 PMYeah, but they won't know the same information than the ones that did the surgery. At least to have a clear answer of what the hell happened. Did you ever communicate with them after? They might think they did a great job with you.
Well, to be honest, on Saturday, I received an email from Dr. Deepak asking me how I'm doing because he didn't hear from me (see everyone, like I said, he does care about his patients).
I haven't replied yet, because I don't want to argue since I really like(ed) him as a person.
This is my weak spot. I hate trouble 
But I should talk to him at least once and let him know, I'm aware of that.
Quote from: Chris on March 23, 2017, 06:33:11 PM
One leg turned out totally fine.
The other isn't, but most likely because Dr. Deepak let one of his assistant doctors perform the surgery on the bad leg without checking this guy's results.
So it is not like Dr. Deepak was incompetent/not skilled. You just can't trust team Deepak. That's a difference!
You are wrong. Dr. Deepak is incompetent for allowing someone else to do bad job and not checking it. He was in charge during the surgery and when someone under-perform he is fully responsible. Thats why they are called assistants( they still learn and can make mistakes)
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