Quote from: 682 on February 28, 2017, 08:20:52 PMI don't think you can blame someone for simply providing the information of somewhere offering limb lengthening. They could no way predict that this would be the result.
Was first thread but I found another one where dirt cheap clinics were posted and he was already called out on it.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=305.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=253.0
Even if he didn't outright recommend, these clinics would be unheard of if he didn't post them and people who ran into terrible complications like Chris would have gone elsewhere, so there is a degree of responsibility for Chris's outcome as well as anyone else who went to a doctor he posted and got messed up.
My journey to become taller with Indian Spinal Injuries Centre
Chris is an adult and made the decision to go there on his own, he is his own person and bears the responsibility for any and all of his actions including choosing ISIC for the procedure. All the other user did was post the information of the place, he didn't make anybody do anything and bears absolutely no responsibility for Chris' result as it was up to Chris to research and decide on whether to go through with the procedure and where, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous and a poor attempt at shifting blame where there is none. I'm sure Chris doesn't blame the user for simply posting its information.
The section itself even has a stickied thread which states;
QuoteThe Directory of Limb Lengthening Doctors serves as a informational database of all Limb Lengthening Doctors available around the world. The directory is intended for informational purposes only.
In plain English, this section is not a recommendation or non-recommendation of any Doctors.
How that information is used by somebody is their decision and responsibility.
My advice seems to be ignored.
I've been saying the following for years now
DO NOT GO TO INDIA. The hospitals there are third world. Forget comparing them to America or Europe. India is well below Russia and Turkey
Quote from: crimsontide on February 28, 2017, 09:50:59 PMMy advice seems to be ignored.
I've been saying the following for years now
DO NOT GO TO INDIA. The hospitals there are third world. Forget comparing them to America or Europe. India is well below Russia and Turkey
I completely agree, it isn't a coincidence that all of these complications appear to occur from cheap lengthening in hospitals in these countries by doctors who in my opinion should not be doing so. I don't know how people can knowingly take such a gamble that has the very real possibility of becoming disabled for the rest of their lives for height gain - yes, the other hospitals are more expensive, but for a reason and offer a much higher chance of a satisfactory recovery, doing it on the cheap is never worth the risk with your health when there are much better options even at a higher price point.
Quote from: Big Daddy on February 28, 2017, 08:30:07 PMWas first thread but I found another one where dirt cheap clinics were posted and he was already called out on it.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=305.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=253.0
Even if he didn't outright recommend, these clinics would be unheard of if he didn't post them and people who ran into terrible complications like Chris would have gone elsewhere, so there is a degree of responsibility for Chris's outcome as well as anyone else who went to a doctor he posted and got messed up.
That doesn't make him responsible. It's clearly stated(on every doctor's information page, linking to here: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0) that the post's purpose is to provide information and how someone uses that information is upto them. Every patient's responsibility is to thoroughly research the surgeon's history. The old forum used to recommend "good" doctors and censor "bad" doctors and it turned into a monopoly.
Quote from: Chris on February 28, 2017, 06:23:28 PMThanks, and I haven't contacted him yet. I wanted to but there was a lot to work out first.
But I think now I have a list:
- twisted tibia leading to foot pointing inwards
- 3cm of fibula cut out; still no callus as of now
- fibula in left leg has misalignment (in both legs no screws used)
- poor osteotomy in left leg
- very early and inevitable consolidation because of the poor osteotomy
- bending in the monorail, because of unknowingly lengthening to 1,7cm while having consolidation at just 7mm
- 1.5cm discrepancy in leg length (and slowly getting more)
- because of the pin bending the angle of the monorail has changed and now I will have to turn more mm for less mm of lengthening
- too short monorail, only allows lengthening to 4cm instead of 4,5cm; maybe confused left and right leg
- the compression-distraction units from Pitkar have 40mm written on it but can only be distracted to max 35mm
- 10mm of the rail wasted because of the consolidation and bending
- max. 25mm possible now (only left leg)
- Pitkar can't be bought where I live
That was hard to read. I really hope these get fixed. My best wishes are with you.
Quote from: yyes on February 28, 2017, 07:00:21 PMIt's more you get what you pay for.
Parihar has a good reputation
I think your right. I hope it is not the same with mitchov internals.
Damn, this is super hard to hear bro. Have u contacted deepak about this?
Quote from: 0184946 on March 03, 2017, 12:19:31 AMDamn, this is super hard to hear bro. Have u contacted deepak about this?
Maybe I will once my left leg has been fixed, but their opinion is not important to me anymore.
Update
I'll have a surgery on Wednesday at a German hospital to fix my left leg. It will be expensive, but my parents will take care of the bills.
My mother has been crying since she had learned about me having leg discrepancy and a messed up foot angle.
And my father has taken charge of me and my fate.
I had to promise to never ever set a foot in a foreign hospital again, or my father will personally come to break my legs 
I'm an adult and this has been my "big-boy lesson". If I ever do something stupid like this again, I'll be on my own.
And to make it even worse: I had to agree to have my right tibia nail locked during this surgery as well, because my father wants me to end this "madness".
This is not appealable 
I'm turning like crazy now and hope to reach >2.5cm by that time.
Life is unfair and then you die. And this is also cruel, but I still I love my parents.
I'm NOT blaming anyone for anything on this forum.
The only people to blame are the idiot(s) who messed up my left leg and Dr. Deepak for not checking his assistant doctor's work.
And regarding cheap doctors: I'm not gonna say "stay away from India or any other development country".
I'll rather say: Only go to known doctors with good reputation. The price has nothing to do with it.
And to lengthen at home has been a good decisions so far.
I will keep this thread updated, because I still have to lengthen my left leg.
I'm going to post pictures of my scares too now and then so you can see their progress.
I think they heal quite well. Too bad one of my scars will be cut open again on Wednesday...
So sorry to all what happened to you there...you really don't deserve it. If you ask me, Deepak and his team should be taken to court for this madness. Yes, you agreed to doing this potentiall dangerous surgery, but all the things they made wrong are simply unacceptable from a medical standpoint.
Do you have any idea what you are gonna do about all your lengthening goals? I can imagine that's the least of your worries now.
I wish you a good recovery.
What is your nationality? Just wondering why you have to pay for the German treatment, but maybe you are a non-european citizen?
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