I want to focus on the topic of post-LL dating in this thread. For most of us considering leg lengthening, height neurosis encompasses far far more than dating, but attractiveness to women appears to be one of the most immediately noticeable benefits of growing taller, and I’m wondering if those of you who had the procedure might shed some light on how growing taller has affected your dating life and how women view you.
Despite my height at 5’6, I am lucky enough to have an attractive face, athletic body, high social skills, and a full life, and I have never had a problem finding women to hookup with. I am very outgoing and when I notice that a woman is attracted to me at a bar, party, in a social group, or elsewhere, I am effective at turning those moments into dating opportunities.
However, I have also found that I have not been attracted to most women who are interested in me, and the women I do find attractive rarely find me attractive, and when I get dates with them due to my personality/social status/social skills I often face a lot of ambivalence, I tend to get strung along until they break things off, and I find myself in a situation where I am regularly tested and treated like a backup until I break it off or they do. My longest relationship with a woman I found attractive was anxiety ridden since I felt I had to play it perfectly to get her off the fence—almost to a manipulative level, where I never shared my emotions, needs, and concealed my high interest level, bolstered my options/feeling of abundance by playing the field in the early phase of dating, and even then it felt like she held all the cards in the relationship, which is not something I’d like to have to repeat every time I catch the eye of a really attractive woman.
I’m wondering whether any of you have seen improvements in that aspect of dating post-LL, whether growing taller has opened doors as far as options, and helped you find less ambivalence and testing behaviors among the most attractive women you’re talking to.
Post-LL Effects on Dating and Attractiveness
There is no question you're going to have more luck with women. 5 foot 7 and down (my height) is where the stark dropoff of women willing to date you occurs. 5'8 and above and you can generally make it work if you put effort in. Of course life gets easier the taller you are. I feel like 5'10 is the magic number where almost no women will consider your height/presence as an issue. Rarely do you see men complain about being 5'10 in the dating world. But you see it occasionally from 5'9 men (really not a big deal though), 5'8 to a larger extent, and 5'7 and down to a very high extent. Ill add that your location changes all these numbers. Im talking from the standpoint where the average man is 5 foot 9.5 in the US. Probably more meaningful for those that actually had the procedure speak to this, but I've been on this site for a few months and read nearly everything and this is what I've gathered from others.
Being taller will increase the quantity of women who would consider to date you but not the quality. You will have a larger dating pool though thus will more likely have more quality women. Just to be more clear, if now 100 women find you attractive but only 10% are good looking, by being lets say 5'9 500 women will find you attractive but still only 10% of them you will find attractive (10vs50 women you find attractive)
By the way you dont even need to ask people on here. Go on a dating app and spend a few days at different heights (change your height). See what happens. That will be your answer. I changed mine from 5'7 to 5'10 and the difference was hilarious.
Quote from: informationispower on October 21, 2022, 02:08:53 PMBeing taller will increase the quantity of women who would consider to date you but not the quality. You will have a larger dating pool though thus will more likely have more quality women. Just to be more clear, if now 100 women find you attractive but only 10% are good looking, by being lets say 5'9 500 women will find you attractive but still only 10% of them you will find attractive (10vs50 women you find attractive)
What makes you believe that quality is not also improved?
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on October 21, 2022, 02:30:01 PMBy the way you dont even need to ask people on here. Go on a dating app and spend a few days at different heights (change your height). See what happens. That will be your answer. I changed mine from 5'7 to 5'10 and the difference was hilarious.
Yes I've done the same experiment in the past, I'm just curious on post-LL patient's take on how the experience changed for them. My assumption is that women are more likely to approach them, are less likely to play games and be ambivalent when dating them, and will give them more leeway in terms of other traits when considering them as a partner. But I'd like to hear some more anecdotes confirming the theory and some more in depth experiences from men who have seen their dating lives improve beyond the surface of "yes, being taller will help with dating". I'd like to hear specific accounts of how they've perceived their dating lives improve, and details about their before/after experiences with women.
Because I see both tall and short guys with either super hot women or either ugly women. I myself am dating according to people I know a 7/7.5 even though I am a 5'7 which should mean according to this forum or other shor men forums, that it should be impossible. I never dated a woman below a 6
My last gf was a legitimate 9 or 10. Its not internet talk, if I showed anyone pics they would nod their head. And not in some fake hot way, like girl next door way. I'm good looking for a short guy and pretty well off (self made). Thats how that happened. But you realize its just not enough for girls like that. Maybe for girls who are 7's or 8's no problem. I know this sounds picky and egotistical.
This got fked up not long ago and I lost her probably because of how insecure I am as a reaction to others. But my actions/reactions are not misplaced. Guys dont act defensive for no reason. It really changed when I was around her family without shoes on for the first time. I thought I was confident enough and truly in my head didnt care. Her friends and family members immediately asked things like "did you lose weight" and other comments (which we know is just code for wow you are really small). In fact 2 of her family members asked that exact question. Im pretty built/muscular with a good body for my height, around 155 pounds and lean. So you know what its a reference to. That moment of internal awkwardness is real. And thats when you realize its not "your mentality" as people like to suggest. Its out of your control no matter your mentality because others do judge you and you do react. Fast forward and all sorts of excuses to break up happened, obviously she avoided mentioning height but completely random things that dont make any sense. Thats how it goes, on repeat. Ready for that to end.
Yeah from my own experience it feels like I have to be absolutely perfect when I do date a really attractive woman. Perfect personality, perfect career, high social status, great in bed, always well groomed and dressed well, and always on my game when it comes to planning great dates. Almost like I’m treated like I have to make up for my body, while my taller friends seem to get away with a lot more and have the same type of women chasing them when they have a lot less going on. It’s exhausting, frankly.
I remember hearing Nikki Glaser joke about how women should date short guys because it’s like getting a hot guy at a discount, and it mirrors my experience: I feel like I naturally end up dating women who are less attractive than me while they still hold all the cards in the relationship, and that’s frustrating as hell. In some ways I wish I didn’t care about stuff like looks, but it’s not really my choice who I’m attracted to or not, and I think it’s the same way for women. I’ve dated a number of women who seem to have been hesitant because they wished they were more attracted to me because of all the other stuff I had going on, but ultimately ended things because they couldn’t get over the physical attraction stuff. And I can’t lie, I probably would have done the same if I met the perfect woman but she was fat or just not physically attractive.
I used to think the LL was a bit crazy because the agonizing and long recovery, the chances of complications or lifelong pain, but even taking away all the other height neurosis fixing benefits and social benefits, it feels like the better dating prospects alone justify why men like myself want to do it. I’d kill to be tall enough where it wasn’t a problem lol.
I know exactly what you mean about needing to be perfect. Ready to fix the situation because the advise many give online that you just need to "change your mentality and get some confidence" is complete BS and shorter men who say this are just coping. "Im 5'3 and pull girls all day because of my confidence" - no, you do not. And theres a big difference between being used as a tool and locking a girl down. Many of these men dont understand this until they hit their 30's.
Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on October 21, 2022, 11:44:04 PMI know exactly what you mean about needing to be perfect. Ready to fix the situation because the advise many give online that you just need to "change your mentality and get some confidence" is complete BS and shorter men who say this are just coping. "Im 5'3 and pull girls all day because of my confidence" - no, you do not. And theres a big difference between being used as a tool and locking a girl down. Many of these men dont understand this until they hit their 30's.
But you are not 5'3. You are 5'7 which is a completely different reality dating wise. I agree with you about very short men coping but again, you are not a very short man
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