This forum has been a great resource and has answered many of my questions. I still have some to ask and since I can't make a thread on my own, I'll post my question in two other threads similar to hopefully get a faster response.
Some of my questions, such as my first one, make reference to the FAQ.
1. In the FAQ it says that most surgeons will not accept a patient above 175cm. I'm assuming there's a reason for this. Are complications more likely to ensue for a person above 175cm?
2. I'm currently 18 and stand at 5'7. 5 ft/171. 4 cm. I am not considering getting the surgery now, but sometime after my growth plates have fused completely. I expect that by the time I stop growing, I will be at 5'10 ft/178cm. My desired height is 6'3 ft/190. 5cm. I would need 13cm to reach this height from 5'10 ft. However in another thread as well as the FAQ it suggests that 12cm is the limit (albeit initially it said 5cm for cosmetic reasons, so I'm not sure if the same is for 12cm). Would 1cm above the limit be an issue?
3. I read a diary of a man who lengthened 7. 5cm/5'3inches to 5'9 feet. In the diary he states the surgery was successful with no complications, however he projects his athletic ability is capped at 80%. Is this likely to happen to people who go above the 5/6cm limit, or is it expected that people who stay within the limits will return to their normal height ability?
4. In the FAQ, it states that the bone can regenerate at a rate of 1mm per day, as well as up to 12cm in length to be added. A post I read on another LL forum says that lengthening more than 0.66cm will "destroy" the body. Can someone provide a counter, as well as some evidence that supports either or so I have a guide on which one is more accurate?
5. I've read that added height in the femur can slightly decompress the amount that was lengthened. Is this true? And if so, how much length is expected to be compromised?
6. In diaries I've read that in recovery they stay in a "house" with other patients. I also read that a particular diet is required for proper healing. Since patients are essentially living in the sapce while recovering, I assume that the costs of surgery not only cover the operation and the physical therapy, but as well as the diet? If not, what exactly is covered by the surgery and what else needs to be paid in order to recover best?
7. Do two surgeries (femur and tibia--not at the same time) pose a higher risk for complications? Since I'm likely to need both to reach my desired height.
8. Are there certain physical conditions that are not recommended to get this surgery? I have a weak patella in my right knee. According to a physical therapist I went to, it is something that's genetic and I will have to live with, although exercises can strengthen it to varying extents.
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you need to see a psychiatrist, not a ll dr
5'10 and considering this surgery after all the bad diaries?
and 13 cm???
Quote from: gyogeul on February 11, 2016, 03:50:49 AMThis forum has been a great resource and has answered many of my questions. I still have some to ask and since I can't make a thread on my own, I'll post my question in two other threads similar to hopefully get a faster response.
Some of my questions, such as my first one, make reference to the FAQ
1. In the FAQ it says that most surgeons will not accept a patient above 175cm. I'm assuming there's a reason for this. Are complications more likely to ensue for a person above 175cm?
2. I'm currently 18 and stand at 5'7. 5 ft/171. 4 cm. I am not considering getting the surgery now, but sometime after my growth plates have fused completely. I expect that by the time I stop growing, I will be at 5'10 ft/178cm. My desired height is 6'3 ft/190. 5cm. I would need 13cm to reach this height from 5'10 ft. However in another thread as well as the FAQ it suggests that 12cm is the limit (albeit initially it said 5cm for cosmetic reasons, so I'm not sure if the same is for 12cm). Would 1cm above the limit be an issue?
3. I read a diary of a man who lengthened 7. 5cm/5'3inches to 5'9 feet. In the diary he states the surgery was successful with no complications, however he projects his athletic ability is capped at 80%. Is this likely to happen to people who go above the 5/6cm limit, or is it expected that people who stay within the limits will return to their normal height ability?
4. In the FAQ, it states that the bone can regenerate at a rate of 1mm per day, as well as up to 12cm in length to be added. A post I read on another LL forum says that lengthening more than 0.66cm will "destroy" the body. Can someone provide a counter, as well as some evidence that supports either or so I have a guide on which one is more accurate?
5. I've read that added height in the femur can slightly decompress the amount that was lengthened. Is this true? And if so, how much length is expected to be compromised?
6. In diaries I've read that in recovery they stay in a "house" with other patients. I also read that a particular diet is required for proper healing. Since patients are essentially living in the sapce while recovering, I assume that the costs of surgery not only cover the operation and the physical therapy, but as well as the diet? If not, what exactly is covered by the surgery and what else needs to be paid in order to recover best?
7. Do two surgeries (femur and tibia--not at the same time) pose a higher risk for complications? Since I'm likely to need both to reach my desired height.
8. Are there certain physical conditions that are not recommended to get this surgery? I have a weak patella in my right knee. According to a physical therapist I went to, it is something that's genetic and I will have to live with, although exercises can strengthen it to varying extents.
Those are a lot of questions..... When I first started reading the forums I was under the impression that if you have "balls", the sky is the limit. Once I woke up from that dream, I realized that if you want to have a decent life with functioning legs, stay within the safer limits.
Here is some advice I can give you..... Go to the doctor and have them check to see if your growth plates are fused already. Go get some x-rays of your legs and get measurements of both tibia and femur length independently.......to get an idea of what your maximum amount of lengthening might be(as a rule, do not lengthen a bone segment past 15%).
Read, read, read, read, read, complete diaries.....from beginning to end.
Do not be cheap about this surgery and opt to get surgery in third world countries, its playing russian roulette with your legs.
After you get some good knowledge(6months to a year), go and consult with reputable doctors so you can get real answers, and most importantly get to meet real patients that are going through the surgery.
The surgery is not a joke. Please please please educate yourself the best you can before you begin to form ideas in your head about your dream height.
Good luck
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I agree, it would be ridiculous to get the operation if you were 5'10" - but, I think you are done growing at 18. You will never be 6'3", you will have to accept that. It is a very difficult procedure to go through.
Quote from: patientdad on February 11, 2016, 04:21:38 AMI agree, it would be ridiculous to get the operation if you were 5'10" - but, I think you are done growing at 18. You will never be 6'3", you will have to accept that. It is a very difficult procedure to go through.
Quote from: crimsontide on February 11, 2016, 04:15:16 AMyou need to see a psychiatrist, not a ll dr
5'10 and considering this surgery after all the bad diaries?
and 13 cm???
I haven't encountered a diary about that yet. I looked at diaries on another LL forum. Can someone link me to some? All the diaries I find are people well below my height (5'7.5ft).
I'm still curious as of why the operation is more dangerous for people at X height versus Y height.
And it's not a rare to continue to grow after you turn 18. Fused or not, I wouldn't have the surgery until my late 20s or even later perhaps.
No one I know grew more than 1 or 2 cm´s after they´ve turned 18. 7cm´s is extremly unlikely, did you get your growth plates checked if they´re still that far open, or why do expect to become 178?If your growth plates are fused, you will not grow a single mm more. Period. I grew 2-3 more cm´s after my 16th birthday, so a growth spurt at the age of 18 is not realistic.
Forget 190, there is no way you can accieve without loosing your athletism completely. I honestly doubt that you will get any taller than 175, I woudn´t do more than 5cm´s in tota,l so you might end up at 178 after your lengthening.
Don´t exeed lengthening the bone by more than 15% of it´s original length. Inform yourself as good as possible before you decide to do that.
you can not do high-level sport probably but that does not mean you can not do any physical activity
I dont judge you, I think if with 1m78 you can easily reach the 1m90 but if I advice you not to exceed 185cm (already a very good height) for sport and better regeneration
just a good doctor
I don't know how you came up with the idea that at 18 u will grow 7 more cm but it will not happen. At most you will grow an inch, realistically half an inch. Its possible also not to grow further at all.
With that being said, if you go to a good doctor , you have goot chances to relatively safely lengthten your tibias up to 8 cm and your femurs up to 5 , if you push it 6 cm for a total of 14 cm. Even with that radical amount, you will still be around 185. Of course you can push it to 190 but the significantly changed proportions will not make up for the increased in height. You will look like a 5'8 guy in the body of 6'3 guy, which does not look nice.
My suggestion is to get 7.5 cm (3 inches) with one surgery (femurs), and be done. I will do the same.
Quote from: aspirant185 on February 11, 2016, 05:29:04 PMI don't know how you came up with the idea that at 18 u will grow 7 more cm but it will not happen. At most you will grow an inch, realistically half an inch. Its possible also not to grow further at all.
With that being said, if you go to a good doctor , you have goot chances to relatively safely lengthten your tibias up to 8 cm and your femurs up to 5 , if you push it 6 cm for a total of 14 cm. Even with that radical amount, you will still be around 185. Of course you can push it to 190 but the significantly changed proportions will not make up for the increased in height. You will look like a 5'8 guy in the body of 6'3 guy, which does not look nice.
My suggestion is to get 7.5 cm (3 inches) with one surgery (femurs), and be done. I will do the same.
all body are not the same
some guy have short legs for a large bust
Quote from: Alittletooshort on February 11, 2016, 02:55:48 PMNo one I know grew more than 1 or 2 cm´s after they´ve turned 18. 7cm´s is extremly unlikely, did you get your growth plates checked if they´re still that far open, or why do expect to become 178?If your growth plates are fused, you will not grow a single mm more. Period. I grew 2-3 more cm´s after my 16th birthday, so a growth spurt at the age of 18 is not realistic.
Forget 190, there is no way you can accieve without loosing your athletism completely. I honestly doubt that you will get any taller than 175, I woudn´t do more than 5cm´s in tota,l so you might end up at 178 after your lengthening.
Don´t exeed lengthening the bone by more than 15% of it´s original length. Inform yourself as good as possible before you decide to do that.
Let's not use anecdotal knowledge as evidence. Puberty for men can stop at the age of 25, so from the ages ~25 you have a chance of growing. You can use a quick Google search to affirm this specifically with height as well, albeit it is more common to stop growing at 18. The only way I'll know is to check if my growth plates are fused, so let's put this bit to rest.
And I'm obviously trying to inform myself. It feels a bit patronising to be told how "serious" this surgery and be lectured on details such as proportions as if I don't know anything about it already. Even in the most idealistic situation I wouldn't get this surgery until I was in my late 20s, so I have lots of time to do loads more research in the upcoming years. I'm asking now so I know if this is something that I have to work towards as I age (since I read the body is in extreme stress in recovery, I'd do my best to become as physically fit as possible for a few years in prep for the surgery so my body will get used to the stress, which I read makes the recovery go more smoothly and faster).
All I want is those questions answered, nothing more.
Quote from: theophilo on February 11, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
all body are not the same
some guy have short legs for a large bust
Thank you.
Let me worry about myself.
Also I'm still very curious as to why doctors do not recommend the surgery for people at or above 175cm. Other posters have implied mild complications, which doesn't make much sense to me. This would imply that people over a certain height that receive leg fractures are more prone to permanent injuries than people at <175cm, which seems like a silly notion since the bone doesn't become more "accident-prone" as you pass the threshold of a certain height. There must be some other factor involved.
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