Even without the power of photoshop, the human body can be re-sculpted through lighting, posture and advantageous angles. Just putting it out there that what you see is not always what you get. Some examples of photoshop and digital image-retouching 
Quote from: TheRisingShorty on February 22, 2014, 03:03:04 PMI would consider this as a fair scale.
While a person may not experience major complications lengthening above 5 cm, it does put excessive pressure on the knee and ankle joints. Therefore in the long term more likely to face the risk of osteoarthritis than a person who has lengthened 5 cm or less.
Is 6/6 quite a considerable risk then?
Quote from: onedayillgrow on February 22, 2014, 06:05:05 PMIs 6/6 quite a considerable risk then?
A number of competent Doctors have 5cm on Tibias and 5-6cm on Femurs as the maximum safe limit for adults. The more you lengthen, the more complications you risk. How your body reacts and Xrays during lengthening should give the doctor and yourself indications about the limit.
My personal opinion. LL is different for every individual and it should be taken one step at a time. There are a number of variables that affect the outcome of LL.
Lengthening amount aside, other factors are physical condition, nutrition, physio therapy, rate of lengthening, and technique used. Also a good doctor who perform the surgery properly and monitor your recovery to deal with complications.
I'd say 0-5 cm is low risk, and 5-8 cm is medium risk. Anything more than that is high risk. This is not a technically universal risk indicator though, I'm making this on basis for cosmetic lengthenings only. For non-cosmetic lengthenings, much more is achieved if necessary.
Quote from: Mime on February 22, 2014, 07:16:28 AMHe lengthened his arms. That's why the proportions look acceptable.
How did you know?Quote from: jerry on February 22, 2014, 05:19:01 AMMy 2 cents working as a freelance photographer. From my experience I can tell you guys that photos definitely does not equal real life 100%! 
The camera angles, posture and photo editing can plays a part in how you perceive the subject in the photo.
So take a healthy pinch of salt with what you see in photos. To give an example of how this works, you can even distort height difference with the camera
Hey Jerry,
Thanks for providing this info. It baffles me that a single picture taken from side-way view can rile up so much attention. But that is also a part of his enigma. The less info he provides, the more people exonerate him to the status that he is not. This is my last comment on this villain who has been preying on short people for commission for so long.
He's lucky that he has old forum to fall back on where he can be his own greek god (apotheosis) and no one can question him. If I meet him in person, he would probably be unnoticed. In fact, a lot of people from the guesthouse didn't know who he was until he told them that he was apoth/sysop from old forum . And if he comes to my gym, no one would care about a lanky old dude who walks around with his balls up to people's chest.
And I checked old forum today. Apoth said that he was looking forward to playing SOCCER (football) with Sweden. At 21cm of leg lengthening, what sort of soccer is he expecting to play? Old people's league? Can he dash/run? He can't even dribble the ball properly. Even a little kid pass through his legs. Enough said.
As for football, Let him live in his own Neverland.
Quote from: Smallguy on February 23, 2014, 08:39:41 AMHow did you know?
Hey Jerry,
Thanks for providing this info. It baffles me that a single picture taken from side-way view can rile up so much attention. But that is also a part of his enigma. The less info he provides, the more people exonerate him to the status that he is not. This is my last comment on this villain who has been preying on short people for commission for so long.
He's lucky that he has old forum to fall back on where he can be his own greek god (apotheosis) and no one can question him. If I meet him in person, he would probably be unnoticed. In fact, a lot of people from the guesthouse didn't know who he was until he told them that he was apoth/sysop from old forum . And if he comes to my gym, no one would care about a lanky old dude who walks around with his balls up to people's chest.
And I checked old forum today. Apoth said that he was looking forward to playing SOCCER (football) with Sweden. At 21cm of leg lengthening, what sort of soccer is he expecting to play? Old people's league? Can he dash/run? He can't even dribble the ball properly. Even a little kid pass through his legs. Enough said.
I haven't been posting as much since the moderator altered the format of the forum. Anyway, I'm weighing in my 2 cents regarding LL.
LL is the stuff of nightmare. I went from full of energy, ready to do anything to bedridden, helpless and totally drained. Rozbruch was right, it's not worth it putting your body into overdrive for a year just to gain a few inches. Well my pride won in the end, I bought the visa, the plane ticket and one way token to an unknown future. Pain and pills is my game, not to mention loneliness. I alone bear the responsibility of my action, had I born a little taller I wouldn't have known such surgery exist and would have looked at it with disdain. For those who is of average height and wanting more, be careful what you wish for. Most of the time personally will trump good looks.
I'm short to begin with but I never dream of anything above 7 cm in each section. Now I'm lower my expectation to 6.5cm, after what I'm going through, lengthening my femur is a distant dream. For those who considered LL, do think over and over and over until you realize LL makes no sense.
Quote from: BullSurfer on February 23, 2014, 02:17:06 PMI haven't been posting as much since the moderator altered the format of the forum. Anyway, I'm weighing in my 2 cents regarding LL.
LL is the stuff of nightmare. I went from full of energy, ready to do anything to bedridden, helpless and totally drained. Rozbruch was right, it's not worth it putting your body into overdrive for a year just to gain a few inches. Well my pride won in the end, I bought the visa, the plane ticket and one way token to an unknown future. Pain and pills is my game, not to mention loneliness. I alone bear the responsibility of my action, had I born a little taller I wouldn't have known such surgery exist and would have looked at it with disdain. For those who is of average height and wanting more, be careful what you wish for. Most of the time personally will trump good looks.
I'm short to begin with but I never dream of anything above 7 cm in each section. Now I'm lower my expectation to 6.5cm, after what I'm going through, lengthening my femur is a distant dream. For those who considered LL, do think over and over and over until you realize LL makes no sense.
It's good to hear your honest opinion, I think you are going through the rough period of lengthening where alot of people will question their own decision of doing LL. The pain, drugs, immobility and loneliness gets to most people. I hope you will let us know if that opinion changes a few months down the road.
Quote from: BullSurfer on February 23, 2014, 02:17:06 PMI haven't been posting as much since the moderator altered the format of the forum. Anyway, I'm weighing in my 2 cents regarding LL.
LL is the stuff of nightmare. I went from full of energy, ready to do anything to bedridden, helpless and totally drained. Rozbruch was right, it's not worth it putting your body into overdrive for a year just to gain a few inches. Well my pride won in the end, I bought the visa, the plane ticket and one way token to an unknown future. Pain and pills is my game, not to mention loneliness. I alone bear the responsibility of my action, had I born a little taller I wouldn't have known such surgery exist and would have looked at it with disdain. For those who is of average height and wanting more, be careful what you wish for. Most of the time personally will trump good looks.
I'm short to begin with but I never dream of anything above 7 cm in each section. Now I'm lower my expectation to 6.5cm, after what I'm going through, lengthening my femur is a distant dream. For those who considered LL, do think over and over and over until you realize LL makes no sense.
I am so sorry....
I hope you will get better soon. 
Quote from: BullSurfer on February 23, 2014, 02:17:06 PMI haven't been posting as much since the moderator altered the format of the forum. Anyway, I'm weighing in my 2 cents regarding LL.
LL is the stuff of nightmare. I went from full of energy, ready to do anything to bedridden, helpless and totally drained. Rozbruch was right, it's not worth it putting your body into overdrive for a year just to gain a few inches. Well my pride won in the end, I bought the visa, the plane ticket and one way token to an unknown future. Pain and pills is my game, not to mention loneliness. I alone bear the responsibility of my action, had I born a little taller I wouldn't have known such surgery exist and would have looked at it with disdain. For those who is of average height and wanting more, be careful what you wish for. Most of the time personally will trump good looks.
I'm short to begin with but I never dream of anything above 7 cm in each section. Now I'm lower my expectation to 6.5cm, after what I'm going through, lengthening my femur is a distant dream. For those who considered LL, do think over and over and over until you realize LL makes no sense.
f**k... posts like this just makes me doubt this whole LL I've been reading about for the past few years.
Then there are moments in daily life that does the total opposite.
I have to totally forget LL for good. delete my account here. Never ever think about LL and get on with my life.
Or just take the plunge. Face whatever obstacle I have coming...
All these former LL patients coming out and claiming their lifes are ruined. All these ITB release surgeries required to function normally.
Precice2 malfunctioning. I just cant decide. If I want, I can just get the girl I like and live my life. But will I ever forget LL? I don't think so. It will always be in my head: "what if...".
The two people I intensively followed was GoodFotballer and Sweden, because they were both active in sports. Goodfootballer the most. he promised to return to football and show the world. I was so happy. fast forward 1 year, I have seen f**k all from either. One claims he can't walk without pain in thailand, the other hasnt talked about football ever again.
I am in such a nasty limbo...
If I hadnt seen such riches (LL) I would happily live as a poor (short man).
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