Quote from: doomsday on July 31, 2018, 12:36:58 AMAnd then attention seeking on instagram, hash-tags, words like mansplaning etc, being single and childless it really show that there might be something wrong with her.
What an incredibly idiotic thing to say.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 31, 2018, 02:35:27 PMWhat an incredibly idiotic thing to say.
Is common, dont get angry
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 31, 2018, 02:35:27 PMWhat an incredibly idiotic thing to say.
I don't know if I told you guys but I have started coming out and telling people what I did to myself just because I couldn't keep up with the lies anymore of how both legs can be broken at exactly the same place. First excuse, was a 1m rock climbing fall while harnessed but I swung onto a rock protrusion that neatly fractured my femurs at the same place.
And for other friends, I told them that I voluntarily got my curved femur fixed which includes an osteotomy and nail insertion because I was falling a lot at one point (NHS found the reason now, it's because I'm hypermobile and my ankle soft tissues are weak, so they don't hold me steadily - hence, ankle resistant band exercises).
Also the fact that I was paying by myself when in fact at the time, I was still covered by Merrill Lynch's AXA private insurance. So I told everyone private care would pay only for a plaster cast and I would need to be in bed for at least a month minimum. Hence, I opted for an elective self pay of £55k for weight bearing nails. And these nails today are so high tech that they're telescopic too because in trauma cases a lot of limbs become disproportionate and need length correction.
But then when the right leg became longer than the left leg by 7cm, and then ranaway to 9.7cm - the stories became quite hard to spin. My parents visited to take care of me for 6 months last year because I had run out of funds to hire a nurse, I had to click everyday and was crying in agony at each session 3 times a day. My poor dad, at some point, he had to hold onto one leg so that I can rachet. Imagine seeing your child in so much pain and not being able to do anything about it. I'm so glad they came because I was a total mess. Even my first consultation with NHS, I needed to be wheeled in by my father as I couldn't crutch that far.
Anyway, I continued lying to my parents that one telescopic nail on my right leg was loose and ran away, that's why I was 10cm taller and the difficult racheting process was to ensure that my left leg would catch up with the new height. Whether they bought the story or not, they never questioned me. I'm so glad that my parents were here, I was very angry at everyone at that point, there was so little hope and I was afraid that NHS would turn me down because I was a private cosmetic surgeon patient. One medical student even told me I was defrauding the NHS system when I was admitted to A&E for infection because I had been under private medical care. But during the first consultation, my NHS orthopedist cried, then I cried because she cried, then the nurse cried too. Then we started laughing for being so emotional which, doctors and nurses usually aren't. So I really lucked out and this is only because I was introduced to another Guichet non-union patient who was under her care. He too was terrified that NHS would turn him away too because he ran out of funds too, couldn't return to his job and ended up driving an Uber just to make ends meet.
One time, I got an xray done while I was in Malaysia as it was 80% cheaper and even the poor orthopedic surgeon was so puzzled by the large non-union gap and nail. He thought I got into such a terrible accident that pulverized a section of my femur bone and trauma surgeons had to debride the entire segment and insert a trauma nail for limb reconstruction.
So many lies... finally, I told all my friends - not my family yet because I think they're the ones that saw me suffer the most and they would be very very very angry. My brother had already asked me once if I did all this because I lengthened my leg, and I quickly denied it coz I fear their wrath and moreso, their disappointment in me. How did I fail so much in life?
I have a boyfriend now and at first I lied to him too, and finally I decided to tell everyone. I feel much better. Most people are quite understanding. One friend's mum even said she wants to do it because she wished to be 5cm taller her entire life. Most people accept it like when someone says they want a boob job done (except we know the risks and technology are not the same at all). We ALL have our INSECURITIES whether it's receding and hair loss, bad skin, weight issues, liposuction, height neurosis, physical looks and it's interesting to see that friends in my 40's age group are finally financially stable enough to realize their cosmetic surgery dreams and they're all going for it, little tweaks here and there.
So it's ok for me to get judged, whether it's attention seeking, instagram, being childless (which I mind a lot because it was a bigger dream than the career I had), getting married, having a normal life. But like someone said here, I have to be sick in the head and I can CONFIRM, I AM sick in the head. Anyone who's considering CLL has to be so traumatized from being short that breaking their legs is their last resort.
But saying that, I am so glad that more people are getting educated about the process and are smarter than we were 2 years ago, and more R&D money is being invested for easier and safer nails. I've outlined many times, you can lengthen with so much less anguish and more success than we did because ISKD nails are obsolete even when 'weight bearing', they do break too (and of course, it would be the patient's fault...). And seriously, all Unicorn haters and trolls should definitely go to Guichet for lengthening to get their own dose of medicine.
In this very imperfect world, with imperfect information and imperfect me, I'm just trying to shed a little more light in this burgeoning cosmetic surgery industry.
Hey!
sory but I could not read all what written hier. Was was your recovery time after surgery? Can I got back to my Work in 5-6 Monts if all thinks goes well?
I am very althletic and train regularly 4-5 times a week.
I am excatly 180 cm and 35 years old. What do you mean? Could I convince Guichet or Betz do this surgery with me?
Thank you in advance!
Quote from: Body Builder on July 31, 2018, 01:53:12 PM
Any doctor that doesn't give anticoagulants after a so invasive surgery as LL (epsecially internal) for at least 1 month after surgery is truly dangerous.
And Doomsday, a man who suffers from an illness or a doctor's fault usually becomes more sensitive and "unstable" as some people, who never had any significant health problem, would say.
But I can truly understand Unicorn as I was in the same condition after the crapy atl I had and I would have gone totally nuts if I havent fixed it.
So before judging so hard, think about what she says. She has a huge nail for her bone, Guichet force anyone to lengthen unstoppably for 1mm per day which could lead to non union and after all, she has a huge non union! How can that be her fault?
It cant. And Guichet is a butcher for prescribing antiinflammation drugs which are a bug NO during LL as they lead to non union, for forcing his patients to lengthen very fast, for not prescribing anticoagulants which may lead to death! and for so much more. And all these with almost the price of Paley but with an obsolete and useless nail.
So yes, that doctor is the worst out there for LL. Simple as that.
Monegal has a huge ego too, he is dishonest, uses a faulty nail, gives bad lengthening instructions and forgets heparine. Check LLuser posts about anticoagulants.
Quote from: LLuser1 on December 08, 2015, 02:08:21 AMAnother thing people told me is Dr Monegal sometimes forgets important things. He forgot to prescribe heparine shots to the American guy whose implants failed. Gross failure.
I agree with Moose that diaries here are full of . Bohemia's diary is disgusting. And that girl Musicmaker seems stupid. Promoting a doctor in a such a ridiculous way when you are screwed up for life doesn't make sense at all. I haven't met her but people told me she is wheelchair bounded and keeps defending him.
Don't believe a word of diaries. Dr Monegal controls every word they say.
Quote from: LLuser1 on January 08, 2016, 10:56:51 PMI'm not a doctor, but If I were, I would be much more professional than this.
A good surgeon would never forget about heparine shots and would be much more focused than this guy in making his patients feel good instead of advertising himself in the forums and hanging out with patients for making money. I don't like hypocrisy when people say they are your friends and they aren't because they don't care about you and they are there just to take your money.
Quote from: LLuser1 on February 13, 2016, 12:32:53 AM
Monegal may be better than Indian doctors but not a top doctor, imo. For the same price, go to Jamal or Birkholtz. They at least are focused on patients’ recovery and don’t forget about important things, like prescribing heparine or X-rays.
Guichet is bad but I think Monegal is worse than Guichet.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 31, 2018, 02:35:27 PMWhat an incredibly idiotic thing to say.
Yeah Unicorn, ignore idiots here. Your feelings are normal.You're in good hands. You'll be OK.
Tragic journey Unicorn, but I'm glad that your situation is improving. Thank God for NHS. The friends and family that I shared my journey with have been supportive as well, and a few confided in me about procedures they'd like to pursue as well. Like you said, we all have our insecurities, small and large.
Quote from: rht on August 04, 2018, 02:11:23 PMHey!
sory but I could not read all what written hier. Was was your recovery time after surgery? Can I got back to my Work in 5-6 Monts if all thinks goes well?
I am very althletic and train regularly 4-5 times a week.
I am excatly 180 cm and 35 years old. What do you mean? Could I convince Guichet or Betz do this surgery with me?
Thank you in advance!
Please see below, which is applicable for every potential CLLer parsing through which doctor, method and segment to lengthen.
THINGS TO CONSIDER
1. Gender
2. Age
3. Starting height and desired height
4. Race (some races like South Asians fuse faster while East Asians fuse slower than average)
5. Smoking or non-smoking
6. Budget + financial support/reserves (what happens if complications handicap you for 2+ years and you cannot go back to work or support yourself financially? Most doctors will charge for each additional correction/surgery regardless of whose 'fault' it is)
7. Is cosmetic surgery insurance specifically leg lengthening ones available to you? The policy can be as cheap as €300 premium in Germany, for example. It saved a few patients I know in Europe from bankruptcy and losing everything they have.
8. Emotional Support (Will your family or partner support you? Will you tell your friends? How will they react?)
9. What segment would you like to lengthen or both?
Femur (more length/faster healing/more pain) or Tibia (less length/slow healing/less pain)
10. Have you researched all the different methods and understand the pros and cons of :
- Femur or Tibia
- Internal nails or External cages
- Manual clicking (ISKD/Ilizarov types) or Remote control (Precice type)
- Non-reversible (ISKD type) or Reversible (Precice, Ilizarov types)
- Weight bearing (ISKD/Stryde etc) or Non-weight bearing (wheelchair bound for months)
10. How much FREE time do you have to 'disappear from the world' while you're lengthening and rehabilitating (do you need to return to your job, demands of your family, schooling etc. and what happens if you cannot recover for 2+ years?)
11. How flexible are you? (see next post to check how stretchable are your quads, hamstrings, IT band etc for femur lengthening/recovery)
12. Are you disciplined enough (you know yourself best to take all the medication and do all the physiotherapy prescribed especially if you choose not to stay with the doctor throughout your entire lengthening journey which takes approximately 3 months)
13. Are you willing to TRADE your current good health for potential debilitation, loss of loved ones, loss of livelihood/job, loss of self esteem/sanity, estrangement from friends and family (if things go very wrong?), being judged nonstop or ridiculed
14. Does being taller change your life so much? Are you currently suffering from short stature neurosis?
15. State of mental health (how strong are you/can you overcome/forgive yourself when facing worst case scenarios, physical pain, betrayals, all types of losses, regret etc.) Can you pick up the pieces of your shattered life and land back on your feet?
16. Most importantly, why are you doing this? You should be brutally honest with yourself about the reason(s).
I think these are questions you need to answer honestly (to yourself) to determine if you're ready for CLL and all its agony and adherent risks.
Hi everyone,
Here are 2 very relevant articles from Paley on risks (which I had to figure out myself as I descended through the 7 circles of hell) and a conference he gave on CLL. Worth reading, watching and researching carefully.
COMPLICATIONS
https://paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening/complications
PALEY DISCUSSION ON LIMB LENGTHENING
HOW FLEXIBLE ARE YOU? CAN YOU IMPROVE YOUR FLEXIBILITY?
Which will determine :
HERE ARE A FEW TESTS
Which you can also use to prepare yourself before your CLL, every little helps especially yoga and pilates.
These are not to be used for post-op physical therapy because they might not be suitable to your CLL method/IM nail/cage/doc instructions/potential injury.
HAMSTRING STRETCH TEST & PRE-OP TRAINING
Your hamstring muscles can lengthen and stretch, hence, preparation and training before CLL will expedite your recovery time and comfort.
QUAD STRETCH TEST & PRE-OP TRAINING
Your quad muscles can lengthen and stretch, hence, preparation and training before CLL will expedite your recovery time and comfort.
PSOAS STRETCH TEST & PRE-OP TRAINING
Your psoas can stretch but it is part of a bundle of HIP FLEXOR musculature. Preparation and training before CLL will expedite your recovery time and comfort.
IT BAND STRETCH TEST & PRE-OP TRAINING
Unfortunately, your IT Band cannot lengthen, it can be stretched to a certain point and if you lengthen your bones beyond that, it will create knee pains, wide legs and duckass.
When NHS released my IT Bands, I could suddenly stand up straight with very little duckass left, my left knee pain disappeared and my left leg no longer rotates inwards. I realized that if I were not an ex-gymnast with hypermobile collagen, who was diligently doing all my PTs exercises everyday, my quads, hamstrings and psoas lengthened sufficiently to match the extreme accidental 10cm length of my right leg.
But the ONE soft tissue that held me back was the IT Band because it cannot lengthen and it became the bane of my existence until NHS decided to release it.
So there is some grain of truth about IT Band releases. The rest of your muscles can stretch and lengthen to match your longer bones.
I apologize if this question has been answered - I may have missed it as I skimmed over the thread. When one of the nails ran away to 10 cm, or better still, while that nail was running away and had passed the safe mark of 5-6 cm, WHY didn't Guichet perform an emergency surgery, take out the faulty nail, shortened the bone to the length originally planned and inserted a trauma nail?
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