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Posted on Dec 3, 2019, 5:50 pm
#1231

Quote from: Unicorn888 on December 03, 2019, 02:40:58 PMHowever, if there were transparent systems in place, widespread application, proper reviews and prerequisites of safety measures as part of the covenants of a financing package, then this procedure would not have to be cloaked in so much controversy. CLL is essentially at the same sensational stage and misguided taboo of breast implant surgeries in the 70s and 80s.


So I guess, Unicorn, if a young person, male or female, desperately wants to get taller in our current day and age, their best bet would be to play for time and hope that either the industry standards drastically improve or new, safer technologies come up? Or would you advise to try to forget about the dream of being taller altogether?

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Posted on Dec 3, 2019, 6:10 pm
#1232

Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on December 03, 2019, 05:50:55 PMSo I guess, Unicorn, if a young person, male or female, desperately wants to get taller in our current day and age, their best bet would be to play for time and hope that either the industry standards drastically improve or new, safer technologies come up? Or would you advise to try to forget about the dream of being taller altogether?


I do believe that we do have adequate technology today, and if coupled with scrupulous doctors and wide awareness of the full risks and process, CLL can be achieved safely in this present day.

The issue is there is a general lack of knowledge, general information, regulation and sometimes doctor integrity, to render CLL safe for all candidates.

It is still very hit and miss.

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Posted on Dec 3, 2019, 6:12 pm
#1233

Hey team,

Just to confirm

QuoteThis was actually just an assumption of me. I'm sorry. As Jolien said, if you're looking for facts, don't necessarily rely on this forum only. I would suggest those interested to just e-mail Dr. Giotikas about your concerns.


and to confirm my point

QuoteGiotikas doesn't mainly live in the UK, he is a consultant in London 2 days a weeks and the rest of the time he works and has a family in Athens.


This is 100% factual I literally had the discussion with him a couple of weeks ago, also I live in London so actually him being here 2 days a weeks is kind of ideal for me (in terms of doing follow-up after lengthening).

and finally , I'm not on this forum to say any doctor is better than another and most defiantly not before actually having surgery. But I would like to address one thing.

QuoteThis Stockholm syndrome seems to occur even among some prospective patients, not being able to accept negative information of the doctor they choose


Stockholm syndrome would require a person to be a victim so it makes little sense, but either way I get your point. But please take a moment to see you are also doing the same thing, I can you are vaguely backing up your trust in Dr Lee saying you can't find many bad cases, but let's be honest as Unicorn said the vast majority of patients never post a word on this forum.

Thanks

RG

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Posted on Dec 3, 2019, 7:02 pm
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Quote from: Rectifying_Genetics on December 03, 2019, 06:12:55 PMHey team,

Just to confirm

and to confirm my point

This is 100% factual I literally had the discussion with him a couple of weeks ago, also I live in London so actually him being here 2 days a weeks is kind of ideal for me (in terms of doing follow-up after lengthening).

and finally , I'm not on this forum to say any doctor is better than another and most defiantly not before actually having surgery. But I would like to address one thing.

Stockholm syndrome would require a person to be a victim so it makes little sense, but either way I get your point. But please take a moment to see you are also doing the same thing, I can you are vaguely backing up your trust in Dr Lee saying you can't find many bad cases, but let's be honest as Unicorn said the vast majority of patients never post a word on this forum.

Thanks

RG


Maybe more appropriate to start a GIOTIKAS thread for your discussions?

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Posted on Dec 3, 2019, 7:09 pm
#1235

Hey Unicorn,

I respectfully disagree.

I didn't start this topic, but I do feel incorrect information should be corrected at source (in this thread).

Thanks

RG

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Posted on Dec 4, 2019, 12:04 am
#1236

Please update us on how you are doing .....

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Posted on Dec 4, 2019, 12:43 am
#1237

Quote from: Great321 on December 03, 2019, 05:32:37 PMThis was actually just an assumption of me. I'm sorry. As Jolien said, if you're looking for facts, don't necessarily rely on this forum only. I would suggest those interested to just e-mail Dr. Giotikas about your concerns.


Ive wrote I’ve done research behind this forum
Still I think he’s lacking morals

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Posted on Dec 4, 2019, 1:05 am
#1238

Hi Unicorn
By the way, how have you been doing recently?  Have you been able to recover?  When I read your post of so much complications many years ago, it was truly heartbreaking and shocking.  I really hope you to recover to a normal life as soon as possible and to enjoy happy life you deserve.  Thank you for sharking your thoughts and experiences!!

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Posted on Dec 7, 2019, 6:13 pm
#1239

Quote from: TemakiSushi on December 04, 2019, 12:43:51 AMIve wrote I’ve done research behind this forum
Still I think he’s lacking morals


If anyone hasn't come to the conclusion, TemakiSushi, has an agenda to crap all over Dr. Giotikas. Why are you pissing all over the best price we've seen with an accredited respectable surgeon!!??? Demand has finally met Supply so why don't you go do your surgery with Dr. Lee Donghoon (who you probably work for) and let everyone have informative objective dialogue.

Someone can get 3inches for under 50k on the surgery price. That is a big deal considering alot of us have grown up on the premise that it CLL is going to be 100k or vietnam/russia. You are a Negative Nancy and I haven't heard one case of Giotikas messing someone up that didn't have a serious error in judgement.

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Posted on Dec 13, 2019, 8:31 pm
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Quote from: dreamingtall on December 07, 2019, 06:13:26 PMIf anyone hasn't come to the conclusion, TemakiSushi, has an agenda to crap all over Dr. Giotikas. Why are you pissing all over the best price we've seen with an accredited respectable surgeon!!??? Demand has finally met Supply so why don't you go do your surgery with Dr. Lee Donghoon (who you probably work for) and let everyone have informative objective dialogue.

Given that Dr Giotikas has some strict criteria for selecting his patients, I seriously suspect that Temaki was rejected by Giotikas for some reason (like BDD or neurosis or something) and he is now trying to get revenge on him. Ι can't really think of any other explanation for his obsession.

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