I always feel less guilty about my stress compared to my malnutrition and sleep deprivation. My sleep deprivation was very extreme. I always asked myself how much of it was my fault. Most nights, I just couldn't sleep or had to study for exams (procrastination). I only studied when I had an exam the following day. So it always took the entire night. But exams couldn't be everyday right. So there must have been days where it weren't for exams.
But other nights, I chose to listen to radio or watch soccer. I started watching soccer after WC 2006, after Barcelona won CL. So I had to be at least 13.5 by that time, was already smaller than average as I believe. In my country, Champions League was always at around 2AM. So I would purposely wake myself up even if I was already asleep. The same applied for La Liga which I also watched. But La Liga is sometimes on Saturday/Sunday. If it's Saturday, then no school the following the day. Sometimes still had to wake up early for Church though. Premier League is always much earlier (8-10PM). But Champions League and La Liga weren't everyday also. At most, each of them is once every week. And they had breaks also. So probably soccer isn't the one to blame. I don't know. By the way, just me ranting. lmao
I read about Randy Gardner who went 11.5 days straight without sleep at age 18. He wasn't short. He was most probably done growing at the time. But if he could do something so extreme, he probably had been practicing it since earlier age. I would love to ask him.
I started puberty super early - around 9. I was in the 95th percentile for height being 173cm at 13 and then only made it to 176cm. My dad is 6ft my mum is 5'5".
I also had steroid asthma inhalers which I don't think helped
Quote from: FredWh on September 09, 2020, 02:13:37 PMI started puberty super early - around 9. I was in the 95th percentile for height being 173cm at 13 and then only made it to 176cm. My dad is 6ft my mum is 5'5".
176cm ain't short. Unless you live in the Netherlands or a Slavic country.
Quote from: Body Builder on September 08, 2020, 02:26:35 AMThe vast majority of us is short only due to our genes.
It is stupid for someone with a 5.7 dad and a 4.8 mom to think that he became 5.6-5.7 because he didn't sleep enough. In reality, he is very lucky to even be at that height with that parents heights, especially an almost dwarf mother.
I have a 5.9 dad, a 5.2 mom and ended up 5.65 which is completely normal with my parents heights.
I smoked a little at 16yo and started gym at the same year but telling that I stunted my growth for that reasons is completely bs.
I may have ended 1-2 cm taller if I didn't so what? Stunted growth is not 1-2 cm but at least 5-6 and today only in countries with famine children face problems like these.
All of us here have our heights at 99% due to our genes.
Sleep, healthier nutrition and all these may have given to some of us, not even the majority, 1 inch at max, nothing to make us not thinking about LL.
So stop thinking stupid reasons and just accept that our genes made us the heights we are (or were for veterans like me).
Lol yeah, based on my heights at younger ages I would've been lucky to wind up 5'4"
Maybe wishful thinking that I could've been maybe a teensy bit taller if I ate meat and stuff because my diet was pretty bleh, but it really would've been pretty much the same.
But then for some bizarre reason my maternal uncle who's the equivalent of my mom's height and his mom who's probably not over 5'1" is now apparently 5'9" when he's two years older than me and used to be shorter and got a growth spurt at 19 and another cousin is 6'0" with a 5'1" mom and 5'7" dad. Genetics are weird.
Thanks yeah I'm from the UK. I guess I just feel like I haven't met my potential which is the main thing.
There is a proven strong relationship between puberty and height. Entering late puberty is always prolonged because the epiphyseal plates then close. but you're still glorious 176 so good
Quote from: Scarface on September 09, 2020, 02:23:13 PMLol yeah, based on my heights at younger ages I would've been lucky to wind up 5'4"
Maybe wishful thinking that I could've been maybe a teensy bit taller if I ate meat and stuff because my diet was pretty bleh, but it really would've been pretty much the same.
But then for some bizarre reason my maternal uncle who's the equivalent of my mom's height and his mom who's probably not over 5'1" is now apparently 5'9" when he's two years older than me and used to be shorter and got a growth spurt at 19 and another cousin is 6'0" with a 5'1" mom and 5'7" dad. Genetics are weird.
Were you a vegetarian as a teen?
Late puberty usually results in normal height, but it can traumatize a teen in highschool still being way under avg but eventually in early 20 or before they spurt up just fine and all is well.. It's the early puberty that fks kids up destined to be 6'0 but then aromatize od test at like 14 and stop growing there cuz fusion of plates despite normal hgh and igf1 levels aka precocious puberty gotta put tht bitchh on an AI asap once u see signs
Yeah maybe I could've gained more if I ate meat or atleast injected HGH and used AI when I realised my growth rate plummeted hard 14 onwards.
So basically I was like the shortest-3rd shortest in my grade all the way up to 7th - 8th grade when I was suddenly above average and a few people called me "tall". Then in 9th grade suddenly below average again, my neurosis then kicked in but I still wasn't "short short". I was predicted to be about 5'8" generally. 10th grade I was very depressed when I realised that I wasn't gonna grow much more. 11th grade, I feel pretty short again but not very short; 20th percentile or so. I knew I wouldn't be tall but I never really expected to wind up under 5'8", much less 5'6".
But then my cousin who ended up at 6ft with not much taller parents was asthmatic as a kid and very very skinny and ate barely okay.
Quote from: Scarface on September 09, 2020, 07:40:06 PMYeah maybe I could've gained more if I ate meat or atleast injected HGH and used AI when I realised my growth rate plummeted hard 14 onwards.
So basically I was like the shortest-3rd shortest in my grade all the way up to 7th - 8th grade when I was suddenly above average and a few people called me "tall". Then in 9th grade suddenly below average again, my neurosis then kicked in but I still wasn't "short short". I was predicted to be about 5'8" generally. 10th grade I was very depressed when I realised that I wasn't gonna grow much more. 11th grade, I feel pretty short again but not very short; 20th percentile or so. I knew I wouldn't be tall but I never really expected to wind up under 5'8", much less 5'6".
But then my cousin who ended up at 6ft with not much taller parents was asthmatic as a kid and very very skinny and ate barely okay.
Doing hgh etc is not natural.
Maybe if I did hgh I would become taller but that doesn't mean I stunted my growth because I havent used hgh.
With hgh you would have cheated your natural height.
Otherwise it is like saying that if a man is skinny he hasn't reached his potential to become 130kg beast with injecting kilos of steroids, while the reaility is that steroids, hgh etc is cheating, not true potential. The same happens with LL. Exactly the same.
So, our potential is not by injecting hgh but without it.
Otherwise, our potential is +15cm by doing 2 LLs and if we dont do them then we havent reached it.
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