Quote from: Elhemioe on June 30, 2021, 06:48:25 PMAnyway, you said it is more noticeable if maxing out, do you think going for 5cm would help ?
So, everybody's body is different. Some people here feel no nerve pain, most (90%) do. I'm doing femur and at >4cm let me tell you, I'm hollering like an animal when the nerve pain hits. It doesn't last long (more than a minute) but it's a solid 7/10 pain. That's a lot, and it hits multiple times a day. Remember, people go to 7.5 on this, so I'm a hair over halfway "done".
At 2.5 tibia you will definitely feel the onset of some debilitating pain. It's hard to predict what exactly; knee pain, ankle pain, shin, etc. Whatever it is, I can assure you that it *will* be painful.
I don't think people "notice" proportions. 99.99% of people just notice height, seriously. Only the 0.01% of neurotic model-wannabees care. And they prefer long tibias right now, it seems. Good luck.
Would going for 5-6 cm in the tibias be wise in my case ?
Taylor Swift has an inflated ego and is more like 176 cm (5 9), but calls herself 5 11 - check celebheights.com - She mentioned her height in EW.com, saying that "I'm 5'11''
Tibia/femur, gets you the ratio. But to measure your real femur and tibia length, can only be done though x rays. So I would say to get that in your home country first to see what your lengthening options you have and do mockups. There is a study on male and female ratios, how its more "estethicly pleasing" for women to have longer femurs, and longer lower body to upper body ratio. Since you're transitioning it should be an advantage for you.
Giotikas is a good doc, but he keeps increasing his prices all the time, to me outside the US the only good two alternatives are Giotikas and Parihar.
Scars for femur, if you do internal can't be noticed, plus you can always do laser treatment to remove them later.
Quote from: PerfectBody on June 30, 2021, 07:33:14 PMSo, everybody's body is different. Some people here feel no nerve pain, most (90%) do. I'm doing femur and at >4cm let me tell you, I'm hollering like an animal when the nerve pain hits. It doesn't last long (more than a minute) but it's a solid 7/10 pain. That's a lot, and it hits multiple times a day. Remember, people go to 7.5 on this, so I'm a hair over halfway "done".
At 2.5 tibia you will definitely feel the onset of some debilitating pain. It's hard to predict what exactly; knee pain, ankle pain, shin, etc. Whatever it is, I can assure you that it *will* be painful.
I don't think people "notice" proportions. 99.99% of people just notice height, seriously. Only the 0.01% of neurotic model-wannabees care. And they prefer long tibias right now, it seems. Good luck.
Thank you for your explanation and being very honest ! How would you describe nerve pain ? I genuinely have no idea of what it feels like so it's a little intriguing, I have no perspective regarding whether I could handle it or not ...
Eitherway if 2,5 inches is the limit where it gets really hard I guess I could honestly feel content with 2, that'd get me to 177 so it's honestly good enough on my part.
Quote from: AimHigh on June 30, 2021, 10:35:42 PMTaylor Swift has an inflated ego and is more like 176 cm (5 9), but calls herself 5 11 - check celebheights.com - She mentioned her height in EW.com, saying that "I'm 5'11''
I don't know how to feel about celebheights. I feel like the guy who runs the website often tends to downplay women's height.
Quote from: Montreal172 on July 01, 2021, 07:21:56 PMTibia/femur, gets you the ratio. But to measure your real femur and tibia length, can only be done though x rays. So I would say to get that in your home country first to see what your lengthening options you have and do mockups. There is a study on male and female ratios, how its more "estethicly pleasing" for women to have longer femurs, and longer lower body to upper body ratio. Since you're transitioning it should be an advantage for you.
Giotikas is a good doc, but he keeps increasing his prices all the time, to me outside the US the only good two alternatives are Giotikas and Parihar.
Scars for femur, if you do internal can't be noticed, plus you can always do laser treatment to remove them later.
y'all are lowkey making me want femurs haha but I'm told it's significantly more uncomfortable so I don't know ... thanks for the tip tho, I'll definitely ask for a bone scan 
Quote from: Elhemioe on July 03, 2021, 03:04:19 PMThank you for your explanation and being very honest ! How would you describe nerve pain ? I genuinely have no idea of what it feels like so it's a little intriguing, I have no perspective regarding whether I could handle it or not ...
Eitherway if 2,5 inches is the limit where it gets really hard I guess I could honestly feel content with 2, that'd get me to 177 so it's honestly good enough on my part.
To be clear, I meant 2.5cm on tibias before you felt real pain.
Nerve pain is a strong, burning, electrical sub-dermal sensation that feels like it's on top of your muscles. You can't massage it out; it feels like a venomous snake bit you. It hit me on my ankles and shins. Some people have it in their quads, under the knees, etc. It's almost paralyzing; moving helps reduce the pain. Moving extremely slowly helped my case, but some people need to move. It's really a crap-shoot - you have no idea how it's going to affect you and how to remedy it. I call it a 'carousel of pain' in my blog.
1. Celebheights is definitely right about celebrity heights. I don’t think they downplay any heights. Put lightly, this is their obsession in life. If they say Taylor Swift is 5’9”, I trust it more than any other source, including Taylor Swift, who has a lot to gain from claiming 5’10 or 5’11. As a personal judgement I’ve always seen her as big and awkward but to each their own.
2. Long femurs allow you to wear heels later and not look weird. Heels add height only to your tibias so if you make those way too long and wear heels you might look really unnatural. I don’t have an example to show since female CLL is less common and most women seem to do femurs.
3. I don’t think femurs are worse, at least for internals. Both are not fun. I’m at around 2cm femurs now and it’s not been fun but it’s very bearable. I’d be almost halfway done if I had your goal. You can also lengthen femurs a bit faster than tibias so technically it could be a faster turnaround.
4. Very personally, I think long femurs look good on women. I’ve seen women with 8cm femurs done on them and it looked really good. It’s pretty feminine on women. If I had a smaller height goal I’d be doing tibias instead, but I don’t mind long femurs on myself since I started with slightly long tibias and my before/after mock-ups looked good. So far at almost 1inch it’s not even perceptible.
EDIT: have you done any mock-ups for femurs vs tibias? It might help you decide!
talking about aesthetic female proportions, longer tibias would mean the hands are further positioned from the knees which would make the upper body look smaller & elongate the legs further.
Quote from: exo on July 03, 2021, 08:26:58 PMtalking about aesthetic female proportions, longer tibias would mean the hands are further positioned from the knees which would make the upper body look smaller & elongate the legs further.
Don’t you mean longer femurs? Lengthening tibias will keep the hands and knees the same distance as before whereas lengthening femurs will increase the hand-knee distance.
Quote from: exo on July 03, 2021, 08:26:58 PMtalking about aesthetic female proportions, longer tibias would mean the hands are further positioned from the knees which would make the upper body look smaller & elongate the legs further.
yeah I meant femurs lmao
Go 8 cm
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