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Posted on Feb 27, 2014, 5:56 pm
#111

Quote from: Dameon on February 27, 2014, 02:06:45 PM3)   Mime has sent me Xrays, pictures of being in the hospital bed with bandages & wounds on the legs along with invoice document from Dr Betz.   Base on these reasonable evidence,  I'm inclined to believe that Mime is an actual patient of Dr Betz who went for LL surgery in Germany. 

he may well be a former patient. He may also have faked documents. But regardless, it doesnt make him eligable to write the amount of  e and incredible misinformation that has been written in 65% of his posts.

All his tibia patients are messed up? betz worse than nazi doctors? what the heck is this?
I rather view Mime as an unlucky patient of betz who felt he was mistreated. Now he is on a distinguished path with a mission to destroy betz. Thats the scenario I find more likely.

Just unbelievable, have you read the posts I quoted or read his posting history? Nothing justifies what he has been writing.

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Posted on Feb 27, 2014, 11:13 pm
#112

Quote from: kusop on February 27, 2014, 05:56:37 PMhe may well be a former patient. He may also have faked documents. But regardless, it doesnt make him eligable to write the amount of  e and incredible misinformation that has been written in 65% of his posts.

All his tibia patients are messed up? betz worse than nazi doctors? what the heck is this?
I rather view Mime as an unlucky patient of betz who felt he was mistreated. Now he is on a distinguished path with a mission to destroy betz. Thats the scenario I find more likely.

Just unbelievable, have you read the posts I quoted or read his posting history? Nothing justifies what he has been writing.



It is true that I had broken screws and also some broken nails. But why this happened? Did you ever ask what the patient did that he had a bent or broken nail? In most cases it was because of too much activity and too early maximum weight bearing in connection with a related osteoregeneration. In such a case every material becomes tired.
In case that a complication is happening to one of my patients it is always our first intention to help him with the best treatment as possible. And if the complication allows it I always try to give him a treatment where limb lengthening is furthermore possible. In some rare cases our help has been denied and refused nevertheless the patient could have reached the wanted height so he remained very unhappy and discontented.
The majorities of my patients are without any complication and don’t write in any forum because they are studying or working and have no time to spend in a forum. In most cases a patient writes in the forum when he has got problems: with clicking or with bent or broken nail or screw. They hope to get help in the forum from others with the same problem. Instead they should listen to the doctor when they have problems and not to people that have no medical education – including Sysop/Apotheosis. The others have no reason to write – what should they write? We understand that patients should report their experiences and this is ok but in many cases there are written so many wrong and confusing and not helpful things.
Mime should tell you from where he/she has got all the information. Why are his/her statements so full of hate, false and defamatory?
Every patient that is visiting me for a consultation can testify that I never lie to  my patients and patiently answer to all questions – no matter how long it will take and how many the patients want to know. It is an important decision they have to do and for that they need as much information as possible.
Also the comfort clinic is not a hotel. It is a medical clinic – a private clinic, a member of the teaching University hospitals and a department of the city hospital where doctors and nurses are doing their work on a high standard.
If someone wants to have a limb lengthening done he should visit the doctor personally to make his own mind about him. I always recommend visiting also other doctors to decide who the best is for oneself.
I do limb lengthening for more than 30 years and never used a patient “as guinea pig” as Mime is claiming. I’ve never made a secret about our patients. Everybody visiting us can see former or current patients and talk in person to them also when there is one patient with a complication. We always animate interested persons to do that because we want them to be sure about the decision to do a limb lengthening.
Never in my live somebody compared me with a Nazi doctor. This is an accusation and a serious defamation. Before you register you agree to write in a serious kind and  "that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy". What Mime wrote is defamatory, hateful, inaccurate and false.
I have nothing against when he is writing that he had a bad experience with me as his doctor but he should remain serious.

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Posted on Feb 27, 2014, 11:23 pm
#113

Thanks for airing your thoughts.
I'm also very uncomfortable with some of the posts against you, and I have expressed this in some of my posts.

I think Mime is a former patient of yours. For the mods, would it be possible for Mime to disclose his name to the mods privately so Dr Betz can answer to his claims if he had personal issues with Dr Betz?

This of course entirely depends on Mime as Dr Betz is bound by patient confidentiality. But if he would not disclose himself, I think his vitriolic comments would be unfair and should be considered expunged from the forum.

This only in fairness with Dr Betz and Mime.

Any thoughts from other members?

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Posted on Feb 27, 2014, 11:35 pm
#114

Quote from: mediocre on February 27, 2014, 11:23:24 PMThanks for airing your thoughts.
I'm also very uncomfortable with some of the posts against you, and I have expressed this in some of my posts.

I think Mime is a former patient of yours. For the mods, would it be possible for Mime to disclose his name to the mods privately so Dr Betz can answer to his claims if he had personal issues with Dr Betz?

This of course entirely depends on Mime as Dr Betz is bound by patient confidentiality. But if he would not disclose himself, I think his vitriolic comments would be unfair and should be considered expunged from the forum.

This only in fairness with Dr Betz and Mime.

Any thoughts from other members?


Thank you for your efforts to mediate between Mime and me. I have a clear idea who he is. It was a former patient of me. His behaviour during his treatment was similiar. I tried to talk to him many many times but he refused my help constantly.

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Posted on Feb 27, 2014, 11:53 pm
#115

I, for one, want to say that I really appreciate you taking your time to come on this forum and help to ensure that we have accurate information. Thank you.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2014, 12:16 am
#116

[email protected] just replied back saying he is indeed Dr Augustin Betz posting here.

The only way it's not him or not his representative is if the email is hacked.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2014, 12:30 am
#117

Don't worry about him Dr Betz. Take your time, as long as you will give us your side. Although the later you respond, these issues keep hanging in this forum.

I got your email reply and I believe it's you.

I will post the email screenshot as soon as I get home.

Quote from: Augustin on February 28, 2014, 12:26:47 AMHi,
I have no fear to answer you. As you know it is 1.24 am in Germany and I have to treat my patients well tomorrow. The need an alert doctor. I am still working in my office to finish some work because I am leaving Germany tomorrow for one week. So now you have to wait for your answers a bit longer.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2014, 1:45 am
#118

It's one thing to view something with scrutiny, but it's another to be rude outright. If Dr Betz's own info e-mail address responded and confirmed that it him posting on the forum, then what else is there to demand as proof? Yes it is important that people who have had bad experiences with doctors are able to freely post about it on the forum. At the same time, the doctors themselves should have just as much freedom to respond. In any case, let's all be civil in what we say. Lately things have gotten out of hand with the name calling and rude posts. The number one thing people come here for is free and open medical information. We want this forum to continue to grow. It's counterproductive to drive people away.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2014, 3:35 am
#119

Just got home.
I'll post a screenshot of his email within an hour.

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Posted on Feb 28, 2014, 3:53 am
#120

This is his email or his office email ([email protected]) to me.

The time 8:08AM is Asian time and 00:47 is German time.

By the way the forum was going at this time I would assume that there's an implied consent from him to me that I can post his email. Anyway, there's nothing confidential in it.


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