Hiding LL from government?

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If you start wearing tall elevator shoes and then do internals only with stryde, so you can walk in a few days after surgery, noone would notice the difference.
You could say at the same time you hade an accident and thats why you did a surgery on your legs.

Some of you become very anxious about stupid things like how to cover an LL. I did it on my 23yo, I gained 3 inches, I said I had an accident, I have scars on my tibias from nails and still noone thought I did LL. So stop becoming paranoid about that things, after all the majority of people don't know about LL, especially stryde where you can have something inside your bone, walking from the first weeks and still geting taller.

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 21, 2020, 05:24:35 PMIf you start wearing tall elevator shoes and then do internals only with stryde, so you can walk in a few days after surgery, noone would notice the difference.
You could say at the same time you hade an accident and thats why you did a surgery on your legs.

Some of you become very anxious about stupid things like how to cover an LL. I did it on my 23yo, I gained 3 inches, I said I had an accident, I have scars on my tibias from nails and still noone thought I did LL. So stop becoming paranoid about that things, after all the majority of people don't know about LL, especially stryde where you can have something inside your bone, walking from the first weeks and still geting taller.

How bad are your scars Bodybuilder? Have you ever been called out to explain them? I am wondering if there is any sensible excuse as to the summetry of the scars. I know your average person probably will eat any explanation you feed them but am worried about those who are a little sharper.

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Good luck telling to a woman you did LL. At best she will think yoh are pathetic and cheating, at worst she will think you a psychiatric ward case and might even go on to tell people.

Bu the way a serious surgeon will not put your pictures on social media without your consent. This is not a joke.
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I understand the concern over telling a potential partner this but if this is someone you think you’re going to spend the rest of your life with I think you should tel them at some point. Obviously this is a serious surgery but if post lengthening you don’t have any serious issues and you look fine I don’t think your partner should hopefully understand. I understand keeping this from someone you don’t have a serious relationship with but if it’s someone you want a future with I think telling them at some point is warranted. If you can’t trust them with this than you should consider whether you’re dating the right person. I also don’t agree with the assertion that we’re fake because we did the surgery. The bone is real and the height is real.

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Quote from: Apprehensive Finance on October 23, 2020, 05:33:28 AM
I understand the concern over telling a potential partner this but if this is someone you think you’re going to spend the rest of your life with I think you should tel them at some point. Obviously this is a serious surgery but if post lengthening you don’t have any serious issues and you look fine I don’t think your partner should hopefully understand. I understand keeping this from someone you don’t have a serious relationship with but if it’s someone you want a future with I think telling them at some point is warranted. If you can’t trust them with this than you should consider whether you’re dating the right person. I also don’t agree with the assertion that we’re fake because we did the surgery. The bone is real and the height is real.

I guess the right thing to do in this life is to be honest, and in this regard it is "warranted" as you say to tell a future partner.  I wish you good luck. I am willing to bet both my balls that 99.99% of women to whom you will tell you did this will automatically dismiss you - best case - as an "insecure short man with napoleon complex". In fact, I think there is MUCH higher chance that you will find a woman willing to date someone much shorter, than find a woman shorter than you (after LL) willing to date you knowing that you did LL.

Another thing that is right to do in this life is to not mock people for their physical appearance. And yet most women (and I guess a fair amount of men as well) mock us, make up all these kind of theories about how we are short angry men and so goes on the story. So the woman you will date after doing LL is a woman who, had you not done LL, would probably mock and dismiss as you at first sight, maybe she would feel insulted that you even dared to approached her with romantic interest. And yet you for some reason think that you are "obliged" (I say this because you used the word "warranted") to tell a person like this about your procedure. Your call, but I think we don't owe anyone to know about this. It is already unfair that we have to go through all of this misery and risk getting crippled just to be treated like equal humans.

By the way, your height IS fake. You change the length of your limbs but not your genetics. If you have a child, it will get the genetics of your original height, not your artificial height. Part of the reason women don't want short men is for their children to not be short. So in this regard, even if she would not think you are just plain insecure or even a complete madman, she won't be interested anymore because she'll know your articial fake height does not help her children grow taller.

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Quote from: InStrydeMyFaith on October 23, 2020, 01:42:38 PMI guess the right thing to do in this life is to be honest, and in this regard it is "warranted" as you say to tell a future partner.  I wish you good luck. I am willing to bet both my balls that 99.99% of women to whom you will tell you did this will automatically dismiss you - best case - as an "insecure short man with napoleon complex". In fact, I think there is MUCH higher chance that you will find a woman willing to date someone much shorter, than find a woman shorter than you (after LL) willing to date you knowing that you did LL.

Another thing that is right to do in this life is to not mock people for their physical appearance. And yet most women (and I guess a fair amount of men as well) mock us, make up all these kind of theories about how we are short angry men and so goes on the story. So the woman you will date after doing LL is a woman who, had you not done LL, would probably mock and dismiss as you at first sight, maybe she would feel insulted that you even dared to approached her with romantic interest. And yet you for some reason think that you are "obliged" (I say this because you used the word "warranted") to tell a person like this about your procedure. Your call, but I think we don't owe anyone to know about this. It is already unfair that we have to go through all of this misery and risk getting crippled just to be treated like equal humans.

By the way, your height IS fake. You change the length of your limbs but not your genetics. If you have a child, it will get the genetics of your original height, not your artificial height. Part of the reason women don't want short men is for their children to not be short. So in this regard, even if she would not think you are just plain insecure or even a complete madman, she won't be interested anymore because she'll know your articial fake height does not help her children grow taller.

now imagine you get married and she finds out years later.

 there is no winning this game.

the procedure becoming main stream with surgeons and celebrities getting it done is the only way to go. people need to forget that image of man crying in bulky frames.

if people who understand this procedure inside out (surgeons and medical staff) and rich af people (celebrities) get this done, its clear its safe and not a crazy procedure.

I sincerely like Dr Debiparsad's approach to this. He calls it minimally invasive, leaves small scars, does the surgery quickly. with stryde you get to walk around. overall a tolerable experience presented. Like pregnancy or getting your teeth fixed.

no one should feel ashamed (ideally)

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Women get less picky as they get older, especially if you have money.  Don't get LL just to impress a 19 year old Instagram THOT.

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Quote from: las vegas baby on October 23, 2020, 01:56:17 PMnow imagine you get married and she finds out years later.

 there is no winning this game.

the procedure becoming main stream with surgeons and celebrities getting it done is the only way to go. people need to forget that image of man crying in bulky frames.

if people who understand this procedure inside out (surgeons and medical staff) and rich af people (celebrities) get this done, its clear its safe and not a crazy procedure.

I sincerely like Dr Debiparsad's approach to this. He calls it minimally invasive, leaves small scars, does the surgery quickly. with stryde you get to walk around. overall a tolerable experience presented. Like pregnancy or getting your teeth fixed.

no one should feel ashamed (ideally)

If you are careful enough, and make sure you don't keep snitches and betrayers in your life (for certain we have to clean a lot of trash out of our lives after LL if we want to keep this a secret), your wife will never find out.

As for the rest, I completely disagree. This procedure should never become mainstream and should never become accepted. The only thing this will achieve is to get average to do LL to get tall, and then us who actually have a problem get screwed once again. Also, women will be on the lookout afterwards for people who did LL, and under such a condition, hiding it becomes much more difficult.

Regarding Debiparshad, I have a terribly low opinion of him. He should be ashamed for advertising this procedure (see paragraph above), and the fact that he goes on TV advertising this suggests to me that he mostly does it for money. Minimally invasive? In what person's right mind is drilling your bone marrow and inserting a metal rod inside minimally invasive? Next thing he'll say is that chemotheraphy is minimally invasive.

One last thing regarding Debiparshad, because you seem to have a high opinion of him. I encourage you to watch Paley's interview with Victor. He refers to some CLL surgeon who is LYING

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and if you read the comments, guess to whom people found out he was referring (Paley did not explicitly state the name, but people figured it out). I am sure after you read this you won't regard Debiparshad so highly anymore.

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on October 23, 2020, 02:09:58 PMWomen get less picky as they get older, especially if you have money.  Don't get LL just to impress a 19 year old Instagram THOT.

Friend I don't know if you are referring to me, I also disagree completely with doing LL just to get women. I am actually sure that somebody who is 5'5, if he has a good 7/10 face, confidence and charisma can for sure get high quality girls. LL should be done for the sole purpose of curing our height neurosis.

I was only arguing that women should not know that you did LL, cause at the end of the day, who knows, you might have a terrible break up with your wife, and then she goes and tells everyone. Good luck afterwards to whomever decided to tell their gfs/ fwbs/ wives wtv.

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Quote from: InStrydeMyFaith on October 23, 2020, 03:10:28 PMIf you are careful enough, and make sure you don't keep snitches and betrayers in your life (for certain we have to clean a lot of trash out of our lives after LL if we want to keep this a secret), your wife will never find out.

As for the rest, I completely disagree. This procedure should never become mainstream and should never become accepted. The only thing this will achieve is to get average to do LL to get tall, and then us who actually have a problem get screwed once again. Also, women will be on the lookout afterwards for people who did LL, and under such a condition, hiding it becomes much more difficult.

Regarding Debiparshad, I have a terribly low opinion of him. He should be ashamed for advertising this procedure (see paragraph above), and the fact that he goes on TV advertising this suggests to me that he mostly does it for money. Minimally invasive? In what person's right mind is drilling your bone marrow and inserting a metal rod inside minimally invasive? Next thing he'll say is that chemotheraphy is minimally invasive.

One last thing regarding Debiparshad, because you seem to have a high opinion of him. I encourage you to watch Paley's interview with Victor. He refers to some CLL surgeon who is LYING

I don't think it'll become mainstream no matter how much advertising there is. It takes a certain mindset to go through with this that most people frankly don't have. Just knowing about it and thinking that it's safe won't change their minds. I don't think the cost in the US is going to go down anytime soon either, which is the other big hurdle.

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Quote from: InStrydeMyFaith on October 23, 2020, 01:42:38 PMI guess the right thing to do in this life is to be honest, and in this regard it is "warranted" as you say to tell a future partner.  I wish you good luck. I am willing to bet both my balls that 99.99% of women to whom you will tell you did this will automatically dismiss you - best case - as an "insecure short man with napoleon complex". In fact, I think there is MUCH higher chance that you will find a woman willing to date someone much shorter, than find a woman shorter than you (after LL) willing to date you knowing that you did LL.

Another thing that is right to do in this life is to not mock people for their physical appearance. And yet most women (and I guess a fair amount of men as well) mock us, make up all these kind of theories about how we are short angry men and so goes on the story. So the woman you will date after doing LL is a woman who, had you not done LL, would probably mock and dismiss as you at first sight, maybe she would feel insulted that you even dared to approached her with romantic interest. And yet you for some reason think that you are "obliged" (I say this because you used the word "warranted") to tell a person like this about your procedure. Your call, but I think we don't owe anyone to know about this. It is already unfair that we have to go through all of this misery and risk getting crippled just to be treated like equal humans.

By the way, your height IS fake. You change the length of your limbs but not your genetics. If you have a child, it will get the genetics of your original height, not your artificial height. Part of the reason women don't want short men is for their children to not be short. So in this regard, even if she would not think you are just plain insecure or even a complete madman, she won't be interested anymore because she'll know your articial fake height does not help her children grow taller.

I'm not saying tell every women you date. What I'm saying is if you're going to spend the rest of your life with someone you should tell them. The way I see it is if I'm going to be marrying someone they should be a person who understands and accepts me for who I am now. Also as someone else said if you marry a women and they find out about it afterwards it's far worse than them finding out before. It's not realistic to expect to hide this from someone you're married to or a long term partner.
 Also I disagree with you're assertion that our height is fake. It's not like the bone isn't real it is. I'm also not planning on having children so the partner I have won't be worried about that. In regards to being fake I feel like this is much closer to what my height should have been. I had a HGH deficiency and even with treatment I barely reached 5'0. Even though my parents are short I should have been far taller than I ended up at. Hence the surgery. My old height was the height that was fake.  In general it sounds like you have a very negative view of women. I'm sure many of them would have a negative view of the surgery or my height before but I would like to think I could weed out people that are so narrowminded they only care about looks.