Wow read some posts and it's depressing how some think. But each to their own. When I was 167cm, I was able to pull girls still. I've had numerous fk buddies and girlfriends. Yes most did say about my height, but I didn't care. Because I have the good looking face that did its thing. I wouldn't had success if I didn't have the face.
On the other hand I have cousins who are 6ft and find it hard to get and keep girls. They just were walking tall trees with no personality.
Yea there are girls who purely want 6ft etc. But these are mostly the really short girls. Or high maintenance types
Do LL if you want, but just don't think it'll solve all your women issues.
To also prove my point a bit more, remember Brad Pitt is 5 10. And women went crazy over him in movie Troy. How come they didn't swoon over other guys taller than Brad?
So my advice, make your face look good, then height. Don't make height first. And u don't need to be 190cm to get million girls.
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Quote from: Antonio111111 on October 24, 2021, 06:10:30 AMWow read some posts and it's depressing how some think. But each to their own. When I was 167cm, I was able to pull girls still. I've had numerous fk buddies and girlfriends. Yes most did say about my height, but I didn't care. Because I have the good looking face that did its thing. I wouldn't had success if I didn't have the face.
On the other hand I have cousins who are 6ft and find it hard to get and keep girls. They just were walking tall trees with no personality.
Yea there are girls who purely want 6ft etc. But these are mostly the really short girls. Or high maintenance types
Do LL if you want, but just don't think it'll solve all your women issues.
To also prove my point a bit more, remember Brad Pitt is 5 10. And women went crazy over him in movie Troy. How come they didn't swoon over other guys taller than Brad?
So my advice, make your face look good, then height. Don't make height first. And u don't need to be 190cm to get million girls.
What country do you live? And did a lot of girls talk about your 167 height when first dating you?
bois, have a saying and when they mention my height in conversation, i say "the girls i met always talk about tall guys but at the end they always fall in love with me". 
Be confident, confident will give u girls if u really think about it. Ofcourse, when you are 1.68, its hard to date +1.75 girls but who cares.
Quote from: Llgoon on October 24, 2021, 07:01:29 AMbois, have a saying and when they mention my height in conversation, i say "the girls i met always talk about tall guys but at the end they always fall in love with me".
Be confident, confident will give u girls if u really think about it. Ofcourse, when you are 1.68, its hard to date +1.75 girls but who cares.
168 and 175, not much big difference right. Some girls do accept guys little shorter than they are.
Quote from: ilovescience on October 24, 2021, 06:22:41 AMWhat country do you live? And did a lot of girls talk about your 167 height when first dating you?
I live in Australia. Yes many did say I was short. Some always kept saying if only you were taller. I wished that too. But it was my face that pulled them. Personality did icing on cake as well.
During the ages of 18 to 26, my 6ft cousins would go clubs alot. I wouldn't. Yes it was height that made me not go. Id hear them say they hooked up with some girl etc. And in my mind I thought wow girls must be hot
But in fact the girls were quite average. My girlfriends and f buddies looked way better. Then I thought how am I pulling pretty girls and they can't? They are much taller. It was my face....
So that's when I made sure I kept my face in good condition hahah.
Now I'm 35 and my cousins same age. I still pull girls in 20s easily and hook up. My 6ft cousins are bald now and haven't aged well. They approach 50 girls to hook up with one. One of the cousins wife always tell him that I am so handsome etc etc.
If I didn't have the face, I'd be doing worse than my cousins. That's for sure.
Plus now I earn 6 figure salary and net worth $800 000.
I wish I could have done LL during my 20s but I don't mind. The tough times have made me so strong. And it is what pushed me to become successful financially.
Remember Brad Pitt and george clooney are around 5 10.
Women go crazy over those 2 than any other 6ft+ guy next to them.
Become the guy that has many things going for them. Don't just be tall. Don't just have a good face. Don't just have a good body. Don't just earn big money.
For hook ups yes, height and looks will matter most.
But for a relationship, a 5 10, handsome, fit, earns 6 figures will beat the daylights over a guy who just has 6 feet 2 inches going for him
Quote from: Body Builder on October 19, 2021, 03:21:17 PMAt 1.65 height it is really hard to be successful with women no.matter how handsome you are or even rich.
It is a big obstacle.
Over 1.70 things are easier, after 1.75 are normal (no advantage still) and after 1.80 (or 1.82-3 for countries with a very tall average) height becomes an advantage up to about 1.90 when you start to become ankwardly tall.
Things are simple like that. Of course looks, style and money are very very important but if you are less than 1.70 then they don't count that much for a woman to be really interested on you. So yes, men less than 1.70 really need LL to have a better life, especially on dating. And of course no man over 1.80 needs LL because if he is unsuccesful with women then height is not the main problem for sure.
Look around in real life. Ud surely see handsome guys who are around 165 cm doing great with girls. My bro is 165 cm and he had girls swooning over him. Always hooked up and had many girls to choose from. Simply cause he has a really good face and bad boy attitude.
My point is that everything has a point of diminishing returns. Let's call it point x. When u pass that, you see diminishing return.
Eg when your poor and have no car, getting first car is must. Provides alot of benefits. Second car great, leisure car. Third car won't do that much. Now you also have a 10th car, how much benefit does it give? Past car number 3,the benefits start to diminish.
Same way with bank balance. When I was poor, 2k extra a month in income did great. Now I earn 150k salary, if I get a bump to 170k, it's not gonna change my life much. Just more money to spend on useless things.
See how there comes a point of diminishing returns?
Same way with anything in life. Everything has diminishing returns. When your 160cm, going to 170cm will do heaps. Go to 180cm, will also do good but not as much. Now go to 190cm, it will only please vast minority of girls. Go 200cm, totally not necessary. Benefits diminished drastically.
So as a summary, try to improve yourself in many areas and only go up to that point x. And then stop. Focus on other things.
Hence a 5 10, handsome, fit, 6 figure salary, will pull girls left right and centre. Cause it's a rare combination.
I am all of the above except the height part haha. And I still get great results with girls to this day. If I somehow become 510, I think girls will just get even easier to some extent. I'd be able to get those girls much taller than me. The table of options expanded. But the girls shorter than me never was a problem to get them. I mostly did the choosing. The girl I like, I pursue, and they open to me since I'm a rare combination.
Hope that puts things into perspective for someone who's been there.
Quote from: Antonio111111 on October 24, 2021, 07:47:23 AMLook around in real life. Ud surely see handsome guys who are around 165 cm doing great with girls. My bro is 165 cm and he had girls swooning over him. Always hooked up and had many girls to choose from. Simply cause he has a really good face and bad boy attitude.
So you mean there is someone who can earn $100000K in his lifetime, then you can, too? It's haphazard mate. Admit it, few men around and under 165cm can easily grab girls in thier hugs compare to tall men, perhaps even with cute faces and strong statures.
Quote from: TortureHuman on October 24, 2021, 11:42:59 AMSo you mean there is someone who can earn $100000K in his lifetime, then you can, too? It's haphazard mate. Admit it, few men around and under 165cm can easily grab girls in thier hugs compare to tall men, perhaps even with cute faces and strong statures.
Ofcourse people can earn good money if they want to. The desire to be successful has to be there. Look at any successful person and they'd tell you it took alot of failure to get there. But they just didn't give up. And now they rich. They all preach same stuff about hard work and not giving up. I had many failures before I got to 6 figure salary. When my 6ft cousins were partying, I was busy learning how to make money.
Im giving advice based on real life examples and not just fairy taie thinking.
Yes few men under 165cm can pull women. These few are the real good looking ones. I already stated a average looker at 165cm will find it hard.
Look at Zac efron another example, he is around 170cm and women were crazy over him in bay watch. He was all shredded. Plus he has the looks.
Even though he lacks height, he has looks and money and status. Hence he does not have shortage of women after him. Vast majority of women would pick zac over a 6ft bald, poor, and lanky/fat guy.
Having many ticked checkboxes about yourself is hard to achieve. But is possible. All I'm saying is don't put eggs into one basket, that basket being just height.
I never said height doesn't matter. U just don't need to be 6ft to get girls. So many real life examples are there. Brad pit is just 5 10
Instead of assuming based on own bias, just observe and see whats happening. Ud understand things as they are.
In Australia, if you were just going out buying stuffs, like going to Kmart, Woolworths, etc, would height be a factor when it comes to staffs at the shops being respectful? Would they treat everyone the same regardless of their heights?
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