There is so much copium in the comments. Women care a lot about height, it’s one of the most attractive aspects of a mans physique. Personality matters but a very large amount of women just won’t date a man who’s not “X “ height . If you are 5’6 your dating options will be substantially reduced.
if you re 5'9 aswell. the dating market starts at 5'10 for most men.
you are all just coping. if you dont get LL you will die alone 
Quote from: Sadist on October 25, 2021, 02:36:43 AMDude heels can't obtain anyone 10cm height LOL and eventually they can only obtain 5cm or so. But I agree on the rest of what you said. That's true. Men under 170cm are really screwed up in dating just bc of heights and that's undeniable. That's one of reasons why we should set out for LL just like women are contemplating plastic surgeries.
Most of women in clubs wear 12cm heels and many of them even 15cm.
A 12cm heel gives a woman who knows to really walk on it more than 8cm and a 15cm heel more than 10cm real height.
So no, most of them obtain much more than 5cm. Almost that height I obtain personally when I wear my almost 3cm insole to my shoes who normally have about 2-2.5cm height on their own.
But what I wanted to say is that even an 1.75 man with 3cm added height from shoes (so a total 1.78) is not tall next to women in clubs due to their heels so an 1.65 man, even with the best face in the world, is totally.invisible there.
Quote from: Body Builder on October 29, 2021, 11:34:27 PMMost of women in clubs wear 12cm heels and many of them even 15cm.
A 12cm heel gives a woman who knows to really walk on it more than 8cm and a 15cm heel more than 10cm real height.
So no, most of them obtain much more than 5cm. Almost that height I obtain personally when I wear my almost 3cm insole to my shoes who normally have about 2-2.5cm height on their own.
But what I wanted to say is that even an 1.75 man with 3cm added height from shoes (so a total 1.78) is not tall next to women in clubs due to their heels so an 1.65 man, even with the best face in the world, is totally.invisible there.
Yes in terms of clubs and random hook up and what not, height and looks do matter. Not just height alone.
A 180cm Brad Pitt will do way better than a 190 normal looking guy.
So if clubs/tinder hook ups are your thing, yes being over 180cm is quite the requirement. Plus looks. Don't leave looks out.
But if you want a relationship with a genuine beautiful down to earth women, then don't just concentrate on height. Get decent height like over 178cm, a good face, good body, money, status, personality, and you'd marry a woman of your choice.
I've been able to have long term sexual relationships with beautiful women that that tall 185cm+ guys couldn't get. I got 2 cousins who are 6ft, yet still single chasing women. They can't get. Why? Their looks are below average.
Look up LMS on youtube. Black pill stuff. Pure truth. Looks comes first then height multiplies that. Only the really short girls want really tall guys. As first preference.
During my earlier years being at 167cm, I had girls from all types have interest in me. From white to serbian to Asian to Indian to Italian etc. Why? My face is what saved me. Face being in the Hollywood looker level. Not boasting just stating facts.
I even had this serbian girl who was like 170cm. Did many mention my height? Yes. Did it stop them from seeking relationship with me? No. Because I was maxed in other areas.
Those here who think height is the only thing that matters with girls, well go get height and see how much more of actual beautiful women you get. You'd be surprised to see although it's increased, there will be others who don't like you due to looks etc.
I'm not against LL. It's great. But just be realistic about it. Gaining 8 cm will not automatically serve you brand new women every week
It'll just make a good first impression. Then you go from there. It'll open more doors for sure. But you still have to show other stuff when you past that entrance door.
Be past a decent height like 180cm and you'll be OK. Don't need to be 195cm etc.
I know a few short very successful, rich men who are considered very attractive. Women say they are attractive but they always say they are tiny. I also work with very successful, rich, average or a bit better than average looking tall men, over 190cm. When the two groups work together, women always go for the tall men and pay them much more attention.
Masculinity really matters to women
Quote from: HeightGain on October 30, 2021, 07:55:27 AMI know a few short very successful, rich men who are considered very attractive. Women say they are attractive but they always say they are tiny. I also work with very successful, rich, average or a bit better than average looking tall men, over 190cm. When the two groups work together, women always go for the tall men and pay them much more attention.
Masculinity really matters to women
How tall are those short men you mentioned?
170 or less
Quote from: HeightGain on October 30, 2021, 07:15:44 PM170 or less
At what level is their face looks? Top level like Brad Pitt, George clooney, Chris hemsworth, model level?
Quote from: Antonio111111 on October 30, 2021, 07:11:17 AMI'm not against LL. It's great. But just be realistic about it. Gaining 8 cm will not automatically serve you brand new women every week
It'll just make a good first impression. Then you go from there. It'll open more doors for sure. But you still have to show other stuff when you past that entrance door.
Be past a decent height like 180cm and you'll be OK. Don't need to be 195cm etc.
If you are short like 160-170cm short then gaining women will be exponentially more after a 8cm lengthening. I'm not talking about 173cm onwards, it will hardly do much
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