Actually, I don't pay girls I date any money. Most of the girls I date have money themselves and prefer to pay for themselves. It's impossible to talk to you if you just keep making assumptions about me instead of actually listening to what I'm saying. If your intention is to attract girls, then LL will not yield you better results if you're already above average height. Instead I would take that money and six months of my time to go travel the world and enjoy life. That is way more attractive than simply being three inches taller. Girls online have responded very well to pictures of me doing charity work and doing adventurous lifestyle things. They don't respond well to pictures of exotic cars. Only teenage boys respond well to that crap. That's why I posted that YouTube video. Hot girls want that kind of life (if you ignore that Gallardo part). And you don't need a ton of money to have a life like that. That guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million. And you could probably do all those things in the video for less than $10,000. Look, I'm simply trying to save you from making a big mistake. But if you're going to act this way toward me, then well, I have nothing more to say, since this is a massive waste of my time.
If I start at 6'2'', how much can I expect to gain? Is 6'5'' realistic?
QuoteThat guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million.
QuoteThat guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million.
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Please don't do humblebrag. Ok, I get it, you have 10 million, but for normal people getting 1 million is a BIG achievement and it puts you in the "rich" category pretty much everywhere. Again, don't dispute this, it will be humblebragging, pretending that 1 million is not a lot of money.
So please help me out here. I am in the same line of work, I would appreciate ANY advice.
So far I have earned maybe 250k$. I need 4x that to make my first million and 10x times that to be getting into the "fk you money" territory.
I understand the importance of money and lifestyle you write about. Yes, I want that. I am willing to do whatever it takes.
Please give advice.
Doingitforme, LL helps you to become attractive in appearance.
Having money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
And as Ozymandias said (and I mentioned in some other of my posts at your diary too) almost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
It is completely nonsense and almost impossible.
So we are talking about looks here and a good character. These are that anyone should improve to become successful with the other gender. Money will give you success but it is much more difficult to have (at least millions like you) and after all, you'll still don't know if the girls come for you or your money. Most of the times it is the money they want of course.
So i would easily prefer to have less success with women but the ones that I get to like me a lot for my appearance and my charming character than having models who like my lifestyle and want to be a part of it (like Dan Bilzerian's case).
But yes I completely agree with you that LL won't help if you are above average and you could use this money for much more interesting things that will help you with women and generally will help you to have a better lifestyle.
Especially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
QuoteHaving money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
It can.
Money buys plastic surgery, great skin care, anti aging treatments, LL, good clothes, good cars, etc...
Quotealmost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
Very false belief. Everyone can become rich if they want it.
QuoteEspecially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
I don't think it is true in my country, but ok.
I completely understand and agree with you - for you, I truly think this surgery would be worth it even with all the risks and reduced athleticism but I feel you are being too conservative in your goal. I think you should aim to become 6'10" to be honest, 6'5" is considered below average now and anything less just isn't worth it, 6'10" is in that 'ideal zone' where it's tall but not too tall - a user on the old forum lengthened 9 inches so I think you would breeze through it - longer initial bone length you see. This generations average is now around 6'6" and even taller in some places, 6'8" in the Netherlands if I recall correctly. Have you seen those teens towering over people of their parents generation by over a foot? It's pretty common. So at 6'10" you'd be in the 'taller than average' range. 6'2" is the new 5'5" where girls just don't really give you any attention. Good luck and please tell us how it goes.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 22, 2017, 12:33:32 PMDoingitforme, LL helps you to become attractive in appearance.
Having money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
And as Ozymandias said (and I mentioned in some other of my posts at your diary too) almost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
It is completely nonsense and almost impossible.
Not really impossible. 6feet2isTooShort said he already saved $250k. So it sounds like he, too, is on the path to becoming a millionaire. If you invest in low-fee index funds, you can double your money in 5-10 years. I came from a poor family and have no greater advantage than the average person in America. All I needed to make my fortune was a computer and an internet connection.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 22, 2017, 12:33:32 PMSo we are talking about looks here and a good character. These are that anyone should improve to become successful with the other gender. Money will give you success but it is much more difficult to have (at least millions like you) and after all, you'll still don't know if the girls come for you or your money. Most of the times it is the money they want of course.
So i would easily prefer to have less success with women but the ones that I get to like me a lot for my appearance and my charming character than having models who like my lifestyle and want to be a part of it (like Dan Bilzerian's case).
Yes, we already established that we have differing opinions on what paths to take to attract women. I already know if the girl is coming for me and not my money when the girls I date are financially independent themselves. Successful, attractive girls are attracted to successful men. For example, the girl I slept with earlier this month comes from a family wealthier than me. And she's an only child who will inherit it all.
I'm also saying that you don't need millions to get girls. I may have millions of dollars, but I don't spend it. It's sitting in stocks and real estate. As the saying goes, you don't end up a millionaire by spending money instead of saving it. I spend only tens of thousands of dollars per year despite making millions per year. LL is the most I've ever spent on something. You might think it's the cars and houses I own, but those are assets that retain its value and sometimes even rise in value. There's no resell value for LL, so you lose $100k right off the bat. That's why I think it's a bad investment, especially if money is tight. It doesn't cost much to live the lifestyle that I do or that guy in the video does. Everything that he did in that video could be done for less than $1,000. Every lifestyle picture in my online dating profile could be made with less than $1,000. You don't have to offer that lifestyle to the girls you date. Most are too busy at work/college to even do those things with you. You just have to look like a interesting person. There's a reason why girls talk to me for hours on end. I have a ton of interesting stories to tell. And I only have these stories because I travel the world and do adventurous things.
I actually have the opposite problem than you. I find it impossible for me to be super attractive, because I only have a 7 face. So at most, I'd be a 7 in terms of looks even if I were 5'11". Where as if I were broke today, I could probably make another million dollars within a year or two if you gave me a computer and an internet connection. So that's why we're butting heads. We each think the other way of attraction is impossible to do. Like you probably think getting six pack abs is really easy to do. Whereas, I find it really hard to do. It's pretty interesting.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 22, 2017, 12:33:32 PMBut yes I completely agree with you that LL won't help if you are above average and you could use this money for much more interesting things that will help you with women and generally will help you to have a better lifestyle.
Especially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
That's probably the most important part of what I said, and I'm glad that you agreed. Have an interesting life, and the girls will be attracted to it.
Assuming this guy isn't just trolling, this thread is kind of fascinating. I mean, the "taller is better" mentality among men is so similar to the "thinner is better" mentality among women. Being 6'2" and wanting LL I can actually believe as a lot of tall men do feel like this, but it is still in very much the same territory as a 40 kilo woman wanting to lose more weight. You will not look better at 6'5" to anything but a minority of women who fetishise height and to most you will actually look worse. 6'2"-6'3" is generally seen as the highest ideal height. Please don't get LL!
P.S. I think the fact that at 6'2" you have a problem with your height (!) speaks more volumes about your problems with women than anything else. Seriously, low self-esteem is unattractive to pretty much everyone, men and women alike.
I don't have low self esteem. I know I'm a great guy, but you can always be better. Maxing out life is where it's at. Get laid & Get paid!
If you want to break your legs at 6'2" to grow taller you have body image issues period.
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