If I start at 6'2'', how much can I expect to gain? Is 6'5'' realistic?

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 , if you want it at any height you have body image issues. But there is no excuse at 6'2".

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Plus, wtf is this about being "better"? If you want to be at a socially desired height, 6'2" is pretty much it in the first place. But your self-esteem should come from the inside, not what society thinks about you, anyway. If you are so hung up on the opinions of others that you think you need LL, can you legitimately say, "I have high self-esteem"?

In my view DoingItForMe hit the nail on the head in his diary when he said he wished he had never done LL. Even though I want LL I get exactly what he means. It's better to learn to accept your body as it is in any situation. Better for your happiness and self-respect- especially in your situation, where LL won't even improve your life, and might even just make it harder (!)

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Quote from: Jack1066 on March 22, 2017, 02:44:05 PMIf you want to break your legs at 6'2" to grow taller you have body image issues period.

In video games I always wanted to raise all of my skills to max cap.

Life is no different. Don't mistake ambitions for body issues.

But fine, you convinced me guys. 6'2'' is a great height and after all I can always wear insoles and go to 6'4''. So I'm fine with my height.

Now money is another issue. I NEED to be making 1 million a year ASAP! Currently I make only about 60-70k$ which is chump change. I absolutely need this and the mandatory Lambo in my Villa garage. Then I will be truly "maxed out" and there will be nothing stopping me.

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Quote from: Jack1066 on March 22, 2017, 02:45:53 PMPlus, wtf is this about being "better"? If you want to be at a socially desired height, 6'2" is pretty much it in the first place. But your self-esteem should come from the inside, not what society thinks about you, anyway. If you are so hung up on the opinions of others that you think you need LL, can you legitimately say, "I have high self-esteem"?

In my view DoingItForMe hit the nail on the head in his diary when he said he wished he had never done LL. Even though I want LL I get exactly what he means. It's better to learn to accept your body as it is in any situation. Better for your happiness and self-respect- especially in your situation, where LL won't even improve your life, and might even just make it harder (!)

There is no reason to accept something that you don't like, unless this something is good and only in your mind is something that need to be changed.
For instance, a skinny guy who doesn't like himself has every right to work out very hard to change his appearance.
The same with an obese woman etc.

So, the vast majority of us here who don't like our heights is less than average height so we have every right to change it if we don't like it because it is not something on our minds but a real drawback that makes our lives worse in much aspects.
But a 6.2 ft dude who thinks his height is a problem yes, he has body image issues that can't be solved via LL but with a psychologist.

So I can't agree that all here who want to do LL have psychological issues but only a minority who is above average height and is desperate for more.

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Quote from: Jack1066 on March 22, 2017, 02:37:37 PMAssuming this guy isn't just trolling, this thread is kind of fascinating. I mean, the "taller is better" mentality among men is so similar to the "thinner is better" mentality among women. Being 6'2" and wanting LL I can actually believe as a lot of tall men do feel like this, but it is still in very much the same territory as a 40 kilo woman wanting to lose more weight. You will not look better at 6'5" to anything but a minority of women who fetishise height and to most you will actually look worse. 6'2"-6'3" is generally seen as the highest ideal height. Please don't get LL!

In pop culture, there is a lot of talk about a "short guy's syndrome" that describes shorter men overcompensating and trying overly hard to be powerful, successful and confident because they are insecure. Regardless if this description is accurate or even fair, we can ask if there is something like a "tall guy's syndrome" that (not all but) a good number of tall men show. Is there something like this, a common trait among tall men? If there is one, I would say that tall guy's syndrome is extreme narcissism. Men who think they are the most handsome, most attractive men on the planet and who honestly can't believe that not every woman in the world would want them and say how they get off to degrading other men and also women. Granted, this is not an universal trait, but I've seen a good number of posters on Reddit (mostly on TheRedPill) who said they won the genetic lottery, had great looks, often claimed to be 6'2'', 6'3'' or 6'4'', had high income, were in top shape, and still hated women for sometimes rejecting them. I think some of them were hurt in the past, such as by being divorced by a woman. Their response to it is a narcissistic personality disorder.

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I agree with you, IwannaBeTaller. I think this is in the popular consciousness as well but it isn't talked about much- but I have heard other people say it before, women included.

Bodybuilder, the truth is that when it comes to being happy, it isn't something you "earn" when you arrive at the promised land of being tall/rich/successful or whatever, and you have to learn to be happy with what you've got first. If you are unhappy and short you will not end up happy when you are taller. There are a lot of people here who think like that and I think it's very unhealthy. This is precisely tying your self-esteem down to your body image. Which is what the narcissistic guys IwannaBeTaller was talking about do, too.

But you are right that being shorter than average isn't great and I also consider that a fat woman or a short man is justified in disliking this aspect of their appearance when society does discriminate against them (the height pay gap is more or less equal to the gender pay gap, and fat women also for example are paid a similar amount less than thin women).

6foot2, it does sound to me more and more like you are compensating, but whatever.

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Quote6foot2, it does sound to me more and more like you are compensating, but whatever.

What is wrong with compensating?

Bums and lowlives are the only ones not "compensating".

If I want to earn money I'm compensating for lack of money.

If I want to be a millionaire I'm compensating for not being a millionaire.

If I want to get muscles, I'm compensating for having an average body.

Why is compensation a bad thing?

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Quote from: 6feet2isTooShort on March 22, 2017, 02:42:16 PMI don't have low self esteem. I know I'm a great guy, but you can always be better. Maxing out life is where it's at. Get laid & Get paid!

You stated yourself you are suffering from mental health. Low self esteem is usual with depression, as is neurotic behavior.

QuoteTo be honest, I'm already on that. I'm visiting my shrink on a monthly basis and taking Escilatopram for my depression.

After checking your Reddit profile that was linked earlier in this thread, you are the moderator of r/SmallPenisShaming - are you sure you don't have issues with self esteem?

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Quote from: 682 on March 22, 2017, 05:52:28 PMYou stated yourself you are suffering from mental health. Low self esteem is usual with depression, as is neurotic behavior.

Yes, but I am taking drugs now and don't have low self esteem and depression anymore. Escilatopram is doing wonders.

Quote from: 682 on March 22, 2017, 05:52:28 PMAfter checking your Reddit profile that was linked earlier in this thread, you are the moderator of r/SmallPenisShaming - are you sure you don't have issues with self esteem?

Cool doxxing bro. No, that is my kink. Shaming beta males and so on. I get kicks out of that. My penis is average according to statistics. I'm jelqing to make it longer though, but I don't qualify as a small penis guy. Just a fetish thing.

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Quote from: 6feet2isTooShort on March 22, 2017, 06:02:44 PMCool doxxing bro. No, that is my kink. Shaming beta males and so on. I get kicks out of that. My penis is average according to statistics. I'm jelqing to make it longer though, but I don't qualify as a small penis guy. Just a fetish thing.

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on March 21, 2017, 05:46:10 PMwho cares