Quote from: p00293 on April 25, 2023, 05:22:28 PMTo disprove this, just think how much bull you'd take from a girlfriend who looked like prime Taylor Swift. You'd put up with a hell of a lot of BS to keep her.
Now think about how much bull you'd take to keep some 6/10 girl who you're still 'attracted' to, but not as much. Yeah, you wouldn't be tolerating near as much from her.
And I see no evidence at all that men and women are fundamentally different in terms of attraction. The 'le personality' pill was proven garbage over a decade ago now, only looks matter so I see no reason being better looking wouldn't make it easier to get those girls who would nevertheless have settled for you if you were uglier/shorter (but you know, that's why they call it 'settling', with all the negative connotations that word provides).
Taylor Swift is literally with Fernando Alonso who is 5.4 height but a very.successful f1 driver with plenty of money.
He is not even close to average but very short for a man.
A man who take bs from his gf to keep her will lose her for sure, no matter if his height. At 5.9, if you look good and have self esteem and some money you don't have anything to envy from a 6ft man in the same league. Even many women are more into average height men than tall ones (not the majority but still many).
A 5.9 man who is unsuccessful with women must first try many other things than LL.because most probably height is not his main problem.
On the other hamd, a 5.6 man no matter what he'll fix he is very shirt for the average women to date so the first and most important he should fix is his height.
I agree with @Body Builder and @p00293
Quote from: Body Builder on April 26, 2023, 10:51:33 AMTaylor Swift is literally with Fernando Alonso who is 5.4 height but a very.successful f1 driver with plenty of money.
He is not even close to average but very short for a man.
A man who take bs from his gf to keep her will lose her for sure, no matter if his height. At 5.9, if you look good and have self esteem and some money you don't have anything to envy from a 6ft man in the same league. Even many women are more into average height men than tall ones (not the majority but still many).
A 5.9 man who is unsuccessful with women must first try many other things than LL.because most probably height is not his main problem.
On the other hamd, a 5.6 man no matter what he'll fix he is very shirt for the average women to date so the first and most important he should fix is his height.
No one is disqualifying your point. Attracting and your value as a man is a complimentary of all your assets. Your personality, your wittiness, your face, your family, your HEIGHT. You can go start doing an improv class and be better at conversations and I'm sure girls will like you more. You can work hard at your job and earn $5 mil and I'm sure girls will like you more. You can also gain 3.15 inches in height, even at 5'9 and I'm sure girls will like you more.
And height isnt just about girls. People will respect you more in general. You go talk to 2 male strangers. One thats 5 inches below and one thats 5 inches above you. See how the dynamic of the conversation changes.
And appearance is important because people usually cant tell you're rich off the bat until they get to conversate with you. Do you think at a club a girl can see you and go like, oh that guy must be really smart and funny. No all she gets is your height and what your face (in the dark) looks like. And thats what she has to go off with to start the conversation with you and dance with you. It's almost like your appearearnce is the resume to get the interview. And everything else like your personality and how successful you are as a person is what happens in the actual interview to see if you get the job.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 26, 2023, 10:51:33 AMTaylor Swift is literally with Fernando Alonso who is 5.4 height but a very.successful f1 driver with plenty of money.
He is not even close to average but very short for a man.
A man who take bs from his gf to keep her will lose her for sure, no matter if his height. At 5.9, if you look good and have self esteem and some money you don't have anything to envy from a 6ft man in the same league. Even many women are more into average height men than tall ones (not the majority but still many).
A 5.9 man who is unsuccessful with women must first try many other things than LL.because most probably height is not his main problem.
On the other hamd, a 5.6 man no matter what he'll fix he is very shirt for the average women to date so the first and most important he should fix is his height.
No, the 5ft 9 guy who has muh money and muh self esteem (both are irrelevant to attract women btw) still has height problems. He might well be getting laid but that doesn't mean his height isnt an issue. The same guy at 5ft 9, all things equal, would have more success if he was 6ft.
I said prime Taylor Swift not some over the hill girl in her 30s, nevertheless 1 example of 1 thing is irrelevant. I could show you a 6ft guy with a girlfriend if you want...
No one has ever said or implied that height is the only possible thing that could be holding a man back, and 3 inches from 5ft 9 to 6ft is the land to endless women and success, so if you bang that drum again I'll just block you, thanks.
You guys are having a futile conversation with an incel who took the height obsession of the LL community to a whole new level. While I try to be respectful of all opinions, especially different than mine, he clearly has no idea what it means or takes to attract a woman. I don't say it because I'm an expert, but because people who are far more successful than me will speak very different about the subject. Thinking the only thing a woman can tell about you is your face and height without talking to you is just ridiculous and a clear sign of his extremely limited understanding of psychology and human behaviour, among other things.
Please don't give him more attention. He's spreading information that's "wrong" at best, and sometimes at the verge of being illegal (see his ideas about funding LL through credit card debt). There is no point in having a conversation with him because he's clearly set on his ways and have 0 openness to any other idea / opinion.
Quote from: hippo60 on April 26, 2023, 06:36:12 PMYou guys are having a futile conversation with an incel who took the height obsession of the LL community to a whole new level. While I try to be respectful of all opinions, especially different than mine, he clearly has no idea what it means or takes to attract a woman. I don't say it because I'm an expert, but because people who are far more successful than me will speak very different about the subject. Thinking the only thing a woman can tell about you is your face and height without talking to you is just ridiculous and a clear sign of his extremely limited understanding of psychology and human behaviour, among other things.
Please don't give him more attention. He's spreading information that's "wrong" at best, and sometimes at the verge of being illegal (see his ideas about funding LL through credit card debt). There is no point in having a conversation with him because he's clearly set on his ways and have 0 openness to any other idea / opinion.
"Thinking the only thing a woman can tell about you is your face and height" that is 100% true in context of a club and first impression? Then after talking to you obviously everything else comes into play. How well you can hold a conversation. Who you are, what you do. And how you are overall as a person. But your HEIGHT AND FACE and your clothes are all she gets to work off of before she talks to you. and before she decides if she even wants to talk to you lol
Quote from: ballsackoffury123 on April 26, 2023, 05:52:55 PMNo one is disqualifying your point. Attracting and your value as a man is a complimentary of all your assets. Your personality, your wittiness, your face, your family, your HEIGHT. You can go start doing an improv class and be better at conversations and I'm sure girls will like you more. You can work hard at your job and earn $5 mil and I'm sure girls will like you more. You can also gain 3.15 inches in height, even at 5'9 and I'm sure girls will like you more.
And height isnt just about girls. People will respect you more in general. You go talk to 2 male strangers. One thats 5 inches below and one thats 5 inches above you. See how the dynamic of the conversation changes.
And appearance is important because people usually cant tell you're rich off the bat until they get to conversate with you. Do you think at a club a girl can see you and go like, oh that guy must be really smart and funny. No all she gets is your height and what your face (in the dark) looks like. And thats what she has to go off with to start the conversation with you and dance with you. It's almost like your appearearnce is the resume to get the interview. And everything else like your personality and how successful you are as a person is what happens in the actual interview to see if you get the job.
I don't respect any tall man just because he is tall. Even more, really tall men with skinny bodies look hillarious and is the completely opposite of someone that I would respect due to his physique.
Appearance is important yes but it is much more things than just being tall. An average height man have no disadvantage in respect, the only thing that lacks compared to a tall one (not too tall of.course) is the attractiveness for many women that want to be towered.from their man and because younger women are taller tham they used to be, it is very hard to tower most of the women with heels on at 5.9. I see it everyday as I am that height after LL.
Nothing other than that. The respect I have from men is much more than almost all the tall dudes I know.
Quote from: ballsackoffury123 on April 26, 2023, 06:42:44 PM"Thinking the only thing a woman can tell about you is your face and height" that is 100% true in context of a club and first impression? Then after talking to you obviously everything else comes into play. How well you can hold a conversation. Who you are, what you do. And how you are overall as a person. But your HEIGHT AND FACE and your clothes are all she gets to work off of before she talks to you. and before she decides if she even wants to talk to you lol
Dude what is that obsession with clubs? How often do you go to clubs? I'm willing to bet the number of people on this forum who go once a week is in the single digits. And even in clubs, you think your behavior doesn't matter? Or how well you're dressed / groomed? Again, height is very (!!!) important, but saying that confidence doesn't have any impact on attraction is beyond ridiculous.
And if that's not enough, I'm pretty sure most people meet today through dating apps, not clubs. Your height is important, but it's also "just" a number on a screen. You still have a lot of work to do.
Quote from: hippo60 on April 26, 2023, 06:36:12 PMYou guys are having a futile conversation with an incel who took the height obsession of the LL community to a whole new level. While I try to be respectful of all opinions, especially different than mine, he clearly has no idea what it means or takes to attract a woman. I don't say it because I'm an expert, but because people who are far more successful than me will speak very different about the subject. Thinking the only thing a woman can tell about you is your face and height without talking to you is just ridiculous and a clear sign of his extremely limited understanding of psychology and human behaviour, among other things.
Please don't give him more attention. He's spreading information that's "wrong" at best, and sometimes at the verge of being illegal (see his ideas about funding LL through credit card debt). There is no point in having a conversation with him because he's clearly set on his ways and have 0 openness to any other idea / opinion.
Keep injecting estrogen and drinking soy, dog.
Quote from: p00293 on April 26, 2023, 08:08:06 PMKeep injecting estrogen and drinking soy, dog.
Thanks buddy 
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